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| KenDodd'sDad'sDog'sDead Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Essex
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| The Box - Face 2 As you may have gathered from the title, I'm going to attempt to wrap this short story up in 6 "faces" making up "The Box". Anyways, on to face 2 - Any kind of critiquing will, as always, be very much appreciated. Quote:
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| A posse ad esse Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oregon
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| Re: The Box - Face 2 On first glance---lovely, dark, creepy and imaginative...but this paragraph strikes me as needing, well, help: "It was then that I began to shiver. ...My eyes settled on the black mystery still occupying my workbench and my hopes of returning to normality were shattered." I think if you broke this down into interior monologue, it would be much easier to read. I just can't reconcile this entire paragraph with the rest of the imagery, for some reason. Maybe the words are too big (LOL) Aslo, so many paragraphs start with: I, It, And, But.....Try just removing those words and starting the paragraph "short" if you know what I mean. Example: " It was then that I first had an inkling that something was not quite right about this boy" Could easily be: A first inkling came to me. Something was not quite right about this boy. And: " But no, something about Theo was wrong. " Could be more forced by: No, something about Theo was wrong. Since we already know you are contridicting the image of Theo, the but is really unecessary. And: "I touched it. It was neither cold nor hot, simply room temperature." Could be: I touched it. Neither cold nor hot, simply room temperature. I think that would work since you already established "it" as being an "it" But I am not sure how it would work in a literary sense. |
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| KenDodd'sDad'sDog'sDead Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Essex
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| Re: The Box - Face 2 Thanks Dustinzgirl. That all strikes me as excellent advice. "The Box" is my first attempt at First person, so this is very useful feedback. I had seen elsewhere that first person POV does often drag the inexperienced writer into the "I" and "it" overuse trap. I'll check through it again with this in mind and get my editing fingers working. ![]() |
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| Ink-stained Wretch Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California
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| Re: The Box - Face 2 I agree with what dustinzgirl said, both the praise and the criticism. But I think the first person viewpoint needs a little work. There's a little too much back and forth between what the boy does and how the narrator reacts. For instance: Quote:
Theo glanced around the workshop, apparently more interested in finding a clear space to put his box than answering my question. He brushed a pile of circuit boards and notepads onto the floor, and set the box on the bench. It was then that I had my first inkling ... Although perhaps that last sentence could be changed as well. You may be overdoing the foreshadowing a little too much, and the narrator may be doing a little too much "mind-reading" when it comes to the boy's intentions. It's as if you are giving the reader continual reminders that the narrator is looking backward in hindsight, rather than bringing the readers into the time frame of the story to experience it along with him, the same way he experienced it the first time. So it's a little distancing. Last edited by Teresa Edgerton; 14th July 2006 at 03:56 AM. | |
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| wandering & wondering Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California
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| Re: The Box - Face 2 I agree with Teresa and Dustinzgrl's comments. There is an excess of "mind reading" and foreshadowing, which makes it harder for me to track the narrator's feelings. His feelings at any given moment seem more inconsistent than you probably intend. For example, he even though "something in his gaze" tells the narrator that he is "talking to someone or something far removed from an innocent youth," he still asks about the boy's parents. The former makes me scared, the latter undermines my fear. Another example: "It was then that I first had an inkling that something was not quite right about this boy. When I saw him standing alone in the alley, I sensed the same thing [ . . . ]" --which undermines the previous fear and the current fear, because they're redundant moments. Then you finish the sentence by backing even further away from the immediate moment: "[ . . . ] but assumed that my feelings of trepidation were created by the drama of the situation." That said, I'm still curious about the box. In fact, I entirely get why this guy, whose life has been devoted to tinkering, and who was leary enough of the box not to even offer to carry it earlier in the scene, now finds that his fears can't prevent him from the irresistable temptation of touching the box. (I think it's cool that you've added this second cause to his downfall: the first scene showed him getting atypically involved with people; this scene shows him falling back on his lifelong habit of tinkering with gadgets.) And I like that you're got six faces, for the six faces that a box has. |
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| Thread Killer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Midlands
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| Re: The Box - Face 2 "Theo glanced around my workshop, apparently more interested in finding a clear space to put his box than answering my question. I said nothing as he casually brushed a pile of circuit boards and notepads onto the floor, clearing a space. He set the box on the bench." I'd like more to be made of the circuit boards hitting the floor. It's almost an aside and, while I'm sure the boy and his box would be fascinating, wouldn't the clattering sound break the awkward silence or shock the storyteller while he is distracted? "It was then that I first had an inkling that something was not quite right about this boy." As others have mentioned, the inkling was there in the first part. Perhaps "Again, I had an inkling/got the impression that something was wrong..."? "But no, something about Theo was wrong. If anyone else had thrown my work on the floor like that, especially a child, I would never have tolerated it." I'm not so sure. This is a person who isolates himself from society, working alone and was reluctant and scared to intervene when it appeared the boy was going to be attacked, helplessly outnumbered. Only honourable intentions forced the protagonist act then. I get the impression he's had bullies of various types shove his belongings on the floor all his life. I doubt he'd say anything then, would he even say anything now? - Just an opinion, but it's the picture I get of the main character. "I used to like children. If my business were not so important, I would have had a family - I'm sure." Is this the character trying to convince himself? It seems that way to me. "He said nothing as I went to the washroom to my right. I opened the medicine cabinet, found the first-aid kit, grabbed a towel and stepped back into my workshop. I had spent literally fifteen seconds out of the boy's sight - fleeting moments, but when I returned, he had gone!" Has the water/blood gone from the floor too? Are there footprints away from the box and to the door, or is it inexplicable where he's gone? Or is the floor so sodden that any possible footprints can't be made out? I want to know! "I called his name only once. Somehow, I was sure that he hadn't run from the workshop and he wasn't hiding. Instinctively, I knew he had simply vanished, just like the youths that had chased him." It's too convienient to not mention the wet floor. After all, that's what drew his attention to the fact he had to fetch a towel. Is there any blood elsewhere on the floor? "simply room temperature." I'd lose this. It slackens the pace for me. "turned it around in my hands not realising that my next action" I'd put a comma after "hands". "My head cracked on the" Wet?/Inexplicably dry? (Sorry, I know, I'm like a dog with a bone on this one...) "concrete" Overall, i think this is very good. Not quite as good as face 1 (great idea there by the way), but then again, I really liked that part. It's still gripping, and contrary to what a lot of people here say, I actually like the regular foreshadowing. It keeps the pattern from the first paragraph of face 1. Maybe cut down a little bit, but I'm anticipating what could be so deliciously ominous! Great stuff! Keep it up! |
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| KenDodd'sDad'sDog'sDead Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Essex
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| Re: The Box - Face 2 Chronies really are the greatest. You've all given me some brilliant advice - plenty to justify a rewrite of this part and ammunition to improve the next bits. I won't post the rewrite here (unless anyone is desparate to see it), but hopefully you'll notice a difference in the following "faces". It seems the most popular observation is that of the First Person POV I've adopted. For that you can blame H.P.Lovecraft entirely (which also explains the similarity to Poe that was mentioned). I recently read "At the mountains of Madness" in which he continually used this tactic of taking the reader out of current events to tell them just how terrible the climax was going to be. Whilst I found it infuriating to read (because he took so long to get to the point) I also found that my sense of trepidation and suspense was sharpened quite a bit. Inspired by that particular style, I've tried to do the same thing and overdone it a bit. Quote:
Yes, he is trying to convince himself. Something that's going to be pivotal to the ending is the idea that he's a very antisocial person but with the paradox of high moral standards - he just doesn't really know how to relate to people. Throughout this story, you'll see comments like "Don't get me wrong" and "Don't misunderstand me" straight after he's mentioned something that the reader is supposed to dislike. Hopefully it should set things up for an uncomfortable ending. ![]() p.s. The water and blood has disappeared with the boy. Truth is, I hadn't thought about that aspect and decided on that just now. ![]() | |
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| Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Staffordshire
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