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lisasg1 · 20th July 2005, 10:35 PM

Hi! Long time no post, but I've read and re-read books 5 and six and I kinda came up with a theory for the next installment in our favorite set.
Spoiler Warning
If you have not finished book 6 and do not want to be spoiled, please turn away now!

Anyways, I was wondering, what if Harry is one of the Horcruxes?
You know, like in the prophecy, he will be marked as an equal, and neither can live while the other survives.
This could mean that Harry will also have to die. Since we know that in order to split your soul to create a Horcrux, you must commit a murder, then maybe Voldemort used Lily Potters murder to turn Harry into a Horcrux?
I know it's kinda out there, but this idea has really been bugging me.
What do you guys think?

little smaug · 21st July 2005, 10:43 AM

You'd be surprised by how many people I've heard voicing this theory. But the way I see it, there's just one big flaw - Voldemort went to Godric's Hollow specifically to kill Harry. And there wouldn't have been a lot of point putting a piece of his soul into Harry, only to destroy that part of his soul 5 seconds later with an Avada Kedavra.

lisasg1 · 21st July 2005, 11:14 AM

yeah, that is a pretty big hole in the theory, but maybe he put the Horcrux in Harry after he realized he couldn't kill him? but then again he might not have had enough power to do that. Or the horcrux could be in the house in Godrics Hollow, and since Harry will be going there in the next book . . . ?

little smaug · 21st July 2005, 09:25 PM

The way I see it, as soon as the curse rebounded, that was it, Voldemort was gone. But I do like the idea of one of the Horcruxes being something in the old house at Godric's Hollow.

lisasg1 · 21st July 2005, 09:29 PM

Yeah, because Harry may live there in the next book, and after he tracks down the other Horcruxes he could be really frustrated trying to find the last one, and eventually he realizes that it's been there all along.

I kinda hope that doesn't happen tho, I'd hate to see one of us acurately predict what will happen, because I much prefer a surprise, but speculation is always fun anyway!

Dave · 25th July 2005, 12:12 AM

If there is a Horcrux in Harry (and this is the first time I've heard that theory - but we did discuss them being inexticably linked in some way last year) then how can harry ever kill Voldemort?

All the Horcrux's need to be anihilated before Voldemort himself can be tackled, and to destroy the Horcrux in Harry first would leave Voldemort the victor.

Please explain how it can work a different way?

FeedMeTV · 1st June 2006, 10:43 AM

I've read a theory that it's not Harry himself that is the Horcrux but his scar. I'm not sure about this myself. If it is true, Dumbledore can't have known because he said he wouldnt get rid of the scar even if he could. Harry will have to find a way of removing the scar which dumbledore said can't be done.

Like I said, I'm not sure about this theory.

Majimaune · 9th July 2006, 09:47 AM

What are the remaining horcruxes. Mine would be (I'll just put up all of them so that I don't get confussed.

Slytherins ring (destroyed)
The diary (destroyed)
Slytherins locket (destroyed)
Hufflepuff's cup
Something of Ravenclaw's
Voldemorts snake
Voldie himself.

The is nothing there of Griffindors because the only known things left are the Sorting Hat and the Sword.

hypocriticHarkonnen · 9th July 2006, 09:52 AM

hmm....I've been thinking about that, and I've got this crazy theory that ole Potter himself is one of the horcruxes. If you think about it, it explains a lot, why HP has a bit of Voldie's powers, etc. I mean, they're not really sure on the exact items in the 'Horcrux list', anyway.

Paradox 99 · 9th July 2006, 10:17 AM

Yep, I reckon it's HP too - specifically the scar.
Voldemort has to kill to create a Horcrux and in that case it was Potter's parents. It would explain how Rowling ends the series - Potter sacrificing himself to ensure Voldemort dies.

Majimaune · 11th July 2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hypocriticHarkonnen

hmm....I've been thinking about that, and I've got this crazy theory that ole Potter himself is one of the horcruxes. If you think about it, it explains a lot, why HP has a bit of Voldie's powers, etc. I mean, they're not really sure on the exact items in the 'Horcrux list', anyway.

I've heard alot of people say that Harry is a horcrux but presonally I dont think so. When Avarda Kedavra or whatever it is was reversed THAT took some of Voldie's powers and put them into Harry. Thats what I think anyway.

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Originally Posted by Parradox 99

Yep, I reckon it's HP too - specifically the scar.
Voldemort has to kill to create a Horcrux and in that case it was Potter's parents. It would explain how Rowling ends the series - Potter sacrificing himself to ensure Voldemort dies.

I have heard that his scar could be a horcrux but I dont think that either. With the killing thing Voldie is killing himself and presumably does it after a significant one that he has just done. So I think he chooses to kill before he makes a horcrux.

Harry will die at the end I think.

jof · 11th July 2006, 01:41 PM

I dont think that Harry will be a horcrux mainly for the reason that it would be...wierd. Think about it, Voldermort is killing someone, this spell fatally rebounds on him and takes all his powers, i would be more interested in the loss of powers and the shear agony than making the best out of a moment. I also think that Voldermort would have some control over Harry if he was a Horcrux. he does afterall have control over Nagini.

We also dont know that the locket is destroyed. I think that Regulas Black had it then it is still in the Black household. It is mentioned somewhere in the books when they are clearing out the house that there was a large locket.

hypocriticHarkonnen · 11th July 2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jof

I dont think that Harry will be a horcrux mainly for the reason that it would be...wierd. Think about it, Voldermort is killing someone, this spell fatally rebounds on him and takes all his powers, i would be more interested in the loss of powers and the shear agony than making the best out of a moment. I also think that Voldermort would have some control over Harry if he was a Horcrux. he does afterall have control over Nagini.

We also dont know that the locket is destroyed. I think that Regulas Black had it then it is still in the Black household. It is mentioned somewhere in the books when they are clearing out the house that there was a large locket.

guessed Regulus Black, too. Besides, who else fits 'R.A.B.'?

jof · 11th July 2006, 03:30 PM

Yeah, i read some information on it somewhere too. Its like (stab in the dark with the country) Polish version of the book says (again stab in the dark) RAZ and sirius' black in that book is sirius Z***. All clues point towards him.

:-D

Majimaune · 12th July 2006, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jof

Yeah, i read some information on it somewhere too. Its like (stab in the dark with the country) Polish version of the book says (again stab in the dark) RAZ and sirius' black in that book is sirius Z***. All clues point towards him.

:-D

And hence this could turn into a thread trying to figure out the ID of RAB. It could be Regulus and I think it could be.

A thing about the scar being a horcrux. Voldie didnt actually mean to give Harry a scar but to kill him.

20th July 2005, 10:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
lisasg1 Huge fan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,183	Spoilers: Horcrux Hi! Long time no post, but I've read and re-read books 5 and six and I kinda came up with a theory for the next installment in our favorite set. Spoiler Warning If you have not finished book 6 and do not want to be spoiled, please turn away now! Anyways, I was wondering, what if Harry is one of the Horcruxes? You know, like in the prophecy, he will be marked as an equal, and neither can live while the other survives. This could mean that Harry will also have to die. Since we know that in order to split your soul to create a Horcrux, you must commit a murder, then maybe Voldemort used Lily Potters murder to turn Harry into a Horcrux? I know it's kinda out there, but this idea has really been bugging me. What do you guys think?

9th July 2006, 09:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
Majimaune Canned Aussieness! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia, New South Wales Posts: 1,978	Horcruxes. The remaining. What are the remaining horcruxes. Mine would be (I'll just put up all of them so that I don't get confussed. Slytherins ring (destroyed) The diary (destroyed) Slytherins locket (destroyed) Hufflepuff's cup Something of Ravenclaw's Voldemorts snake Voldie himself. The is nothing there of Griffindors because the only known things left are the Sorting Hat and the Sword.

9th July 2006, 09:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
hypocriticHarkonnen High on Melange. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 116	Re: Horcruxes. The remaining. hmm....I've been thinking about that, and I've got this crazy theory that ole Potter himself is one of the horcruxes. If you think about it, it explains a lot, why HP has a bit of Voldie's powers, etc. I mean, they're not really sure on the exact items in the 'Horcrux list', anyway.

9th July 2006, 10:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
Paradox 99 KenDodd'sDad'sDog'sDead Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 794	Re: Horcruxes. The remaining. Yep, I reckon it's HP too - specifically the scar. Voldemort has to kill to create a Horcrux and in that case it was Potter's parents. It would explain how Rowling ends the series - Potter sacrificing himself to ensure Voldemort dies.

11th July 2006, 01:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
jof The good looking one :P Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK: ENGLAND: Posts: 44	Re: Horcruxes. The remaining. I dont think that Harry will be a horcrux mainly for the reason that it would be...wierd. Think about it, Voldermort is killing someone, this spell fatally rebounds on him and takes all his powers, i would be more interested in the loss of powers and the shear agony than making the best out of a moment. I also think that Voldermort would have some control over Harry if he was a Horcrux. he does afterall have control over Nagini. We also dont know that the locket is destroyed. I think that Regulas Black had it then it is still in the Black household. It is mentioned somewhere in the books when they are clearing out the house that there was a large locket.

21st July 2005, 10:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
little smaug Fire and Brimstone Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,343	You'd be surprised by how many people I've heard voicing this theory. But the way I see it, there's just one big flaw - Voldemort went to Godric's Hollow specifically to kill Harry. And there wouldn't have been a lot of point putting a piece of his soul into Harry, only to destroy that part of his soul 5 seconds later with an Avada Kedavra.

21st July 2005, 11:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
lisasg1 Huge fan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,183	yeah, that is a pretty big hole in the theory, but maybe he put the Horcrux in Harry after he realized he couldn't kill him? but then again he might not have had enough power to do that. Or the horcrux could be in the house in Godrics Hollow, and since Harry will be going there in the next book . . . ?

21st July 2005, 09:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
little smaug Fire and Brimstone Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 1,343	The way I see it, as soon as the curse rebounded, that was it, Voldemort was gone. But I do like the idea of one of the Horcruxes being something in the old house at Godric's Hollow.

21st July 2005, 09:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
lisasg1 Huge fan Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,183	Yeah, because Harry may live there in the next book, and after he tracks down the other Horcruxes he could be really frustrated trying to find the last one, and eventually he realizes that it's been there all along. I kinda hope that doesn't happen tho, I'd hate to see one of us acurately predict what will happen, because I much prefer a surprise, but speculation is always fun anyway!

25th July 2005, 12:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dave Wherever I Am, I'm There Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Greater London Posts: 11,602	If there is a Horcrux in Harry (and this is the first time I've heard that theory - but we did discuss them being inexticably linked in some way last year) then how can harry ever kill Voldemort? All the Horcrux's need to be anihilated before Voldemort himself can be tackled, and to destroy the Horcrux in Harry first would leave Voldemort the victor. Please explain how it can work a different way?

1st June 2006, 10:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
FeedMeTV The Fifth Member of SG-1 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: England Posts: 803	I've read a theory that it's not Harry himself that is the Horcrux but his scar. I'm not sure about this myself. If it is true, Dumbledore can't have known because he said he wouldnt get rid of the scar even if he could. Harry will have to find a way of removing the scar which dumbledore said can't be done. Like I said, I'm not sure about this theory.

11th July 2006, 03:30 PM	#14 (permalink)
jof The good looking one :P Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK: ENGLAND: Posts: 44	Re: Horcruxes. The remaining. Yeah, i read some information on it somewhere too. Its like (stab in the dark with the country) Polish version of the book says (again stab in the dark) RAZ and sirius' black in that book is sirius Z***. All clues point towards him. :-D

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