Horcruxes. The remaining.

[Alia]

Originally Posted by Paradox 99

Yep, I reckon it's HP too - specifically the scar.
Voldemort has to kill to create a Horcrux and in that case it was Potter's parents. It would explain how Rowling ends the series - Potter sacrificing himself to ensure Voldemort dies.

Interesting theory... I have to say that I have thought the scar was one of the Horcruxes from the end of the last book.

[Paradox 99]

Originally Posted by jof

I dont think that Harry will be a horcrux mainly for the reason that it would be...wierd. Think about it, Voldermort is killing someone, this spell fatally rebounds on him and takes all his powers, i would be more interested in the loss of powers and the shear agony than making the best out of a moment.

Good point, but Voldemort is shown to be an extremely devious character and how do we know what actually did happen the night that Potter's parent's died? The only accounts we have of that night are what others have been saying. Who were the actual witnesses of the event? Voldemort and Harry are the only living witnesss - Harry was too young to remember properly and Voldemort could very easily be telling porky-pies about how the deaths actually happened. I wouldn't put it past him.

[Allanon]

does anyone think that neville longbottom could be the last horcrux? just a thought

[Majimaune]

Originally Posted by Paradox 99

Good point, but Voldemort is shown to be an extremely devious character and how do we know what actually did happen the night that Potter's parent's died? The only accounts we have of that night are what others have been saying. Who were the actual witnesses of the event? Voldemort and Harry are the only living witnesss - Harry was too young to remember properly and Voldemort could very easily be telling porky-pies about how the deaths actually happened. I wouldn't put it past him.

I think you are forgeting something. In GOF when Harry and Voldemort are fighting and then the departed spirits if you will come out of the end of Voldemort's wand. There is where the truth is about him killing James and Lilly Potter.

You have to remember that when Voldemort went to Godric's Hollow that night he went to kill Harry no to give him a scar and get almost killed himself. know He went there to kill Harry and make a horcrux afterwards. I don't know what he had there to make into a horcrux but it wasnt a scar on Harry's dead body because the Killing Curse doesnt leave a mark and two why would you want to make a horcrux out of a dead body. To easily destroyed.

Originally Posted by Allanon

does anyone think that neville longbottom could be the last horcrux? just a thought

I don't think Neville is a horcrux but I would like it if he jumped out of nowhere and killed Voldie in the end.

[jof]

Out of the sorting hat, shouted tequila and killed Voldermort with a rubber chicken?

[Paradox 99]

Originally Posted by Majimaune

I think you are forgeting something. In GOF when Harry and Voldemort are fighting and then the departed spirits if you will come out of the end of Voldemort's wand. There is where the truth is about him killing James and Lilly Potter.

Ah yes, you're right - I'd forgotten about that. I'll have to reread that bit to see exactly what they said to him.

Originally Posted by Majimaune

You have to remember that when Voldemort went to Godric's Hollow that night he went to kill Harry no to give him a scar and get almost killed himself.

But that's primarily what I'm questioning - did he really go to kill Harry, or in his megalomania did he privately decide to use the object of prophecy as a Horcrux instead? Certainly Voldemort's people would have expected nothing less than for him to seek out and kill someone who was destined to bring about his demise, so he had to at least go along with that expectation.
He may not have attempted to kill Harry at all, but I'm going to have to reread that part from GOF to see if it blows my idea out of the water.

Voldemort's own demise at the time of creating Harry as a Horcrux could have been a result of his parents stopping Voldemort an instant before they died rather than a curse backfiring because of "love". I always found that rather convincing.

[Majimaune]

Originally Posted by Paradox 99

But that's primarily what I'm questioning - did he really go to kill Harry, or in his megalomania did he privately decide to use the object of prophecy as a Horcrux instead? Certainly Voldemort's people would have expected nothing less than for him to seek out and kill someone who was destined to bring about his demise, so he had to at least go along with that expectation.
He may not have attempted to kill Harry at all, but I'm going to have to reread that part from GOF to see if it blows my idea out of the water.

You know whats annoying. You computer dying right when your posting.

I like your idea but I see one big hole in it, why would Voldemot want to kill Harry so much if he was a intended/is already horcrux. Wouldnt you think he would want him alive?

I think Voldemort would have gone and killed Harry though because in the prophecy it says something along the lines of Neither can live while the other suvives. Voldemort would've wanted to kill him, also its in his nature.

[Paradox 99]

Originally Posted by Majimaune

You know whats annoying. You computer dying right when your posting.

Oh I just hate that!

I like your idea but I see one big hole in it, why would Voldemot want to kill Harry so much if he was a intended/is already horcrux. Wouldnt you think he would want him alive?

Exactly my point. I think Voldemort does want to keep Harry alive.
He's just lying to everyone else that he wants to kill Harry because it's what everyone would expect of him. They'd be suspicious if he said that he didn't want to kill Harry.

I think Voldemort would have gone and killed Harry though because in the prophecy it says something along the lines of Neither can live while the other suvives. Voldemort would've wanted to kill him, also its in his nature.

Yes, that's a couple of flaws in my theory - I'm working on that.

[carrie221]

It is Harry... it just has to be! That is my story and I am stickin to it.

[hypocriticHarkonnen]

i agree. besides, if everyone thought harry was wanted dead by voldie, voldie knows they'd do everything to keep him alive and kickin'...which, of course, may stop in the last book. also, the prophecy might include Neville...so he might be the one that the "neither may live" line refers to. i dunno >.<

[Alia]

Okay... if Harry's scar is one of the Horcruxes, and to kill Voldermort Harry needs to destroy all the horcruxes wouldn't Harry have to die? This would go along with Rowling saying that she is killing off two people so they can't bring Harry Potter books back after this last one.

Just a thought.

[Paradox 99]

My thoughts exactly.

[Majimaune]

I just think he's going to be killed.

[MJRevell]

How on earth is it possible for Harry to be a horcrux?

What we know about horcruxes:

-They are items (which includes animals, as we have seen) that contain part of a soul.
-One must commit a murder, which in turn shreds up your soul, in order to take that fragment and put it in a horcrux
-One must cast a spell in order to complete the horcrux

Perhaps Voldemort was intending on making a horcrux after killing Harry. But this would need an item. He needed to kill Harry to secure his own life; he can't have a piece of his own soul in a dead body. Plus, his killing curse backfired, rendering him unable to cast any necessary horcrux spell afterwards. I don't see how it is possible that Harry himself is a horcrux.

As i said, perhaps the killing of Harry was event enough to warrent a horcrux - and as a result, perhaps Voldemort had an item prepared on his person, ready so that he could make the horcrux after murdering Harry. Perhaps that item is still in Godric's Hollow. We'll have to wait and see i guess.

But Harry himself a horcrux? I personally fail to see how this could ever happen.

[Alia]

How on earth is it possible for Harry to be a horcrux?

What we know about horcruxes:

-They are items (which includes animals, as we have seen) that contain part of a soul.
-One must commit a murder, which in turn shreds up your soul, in order to take that fragment and put it in a horcrux
-One must cast a spell in order to complete the horcrux

Let's see that sums it up for me. The scar on Harry's head is a horcux!

The soul that was killed was Harry's mother. If I remember the story right, when the scar occurred, Lilly was between Voldermont's magic and Harry. The only thing that happen to Harry was the scar. I'm not saying that Harry is the horcux, but rather the scar itself. And everytime Voldermont is around the scar hurts Harry. There is something odd about the scar. I have always thought that since the first book.