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Wil · 23rd June 2006, 06:57 PM

Was anyone else not thrilled by A Feast for Crows?
There were some interesting things, but in the end not much really changed in the story.

Opinions?

the smiling weirwood · 23rd June 2006, 09:22 PM

ooh! what an adorably fat kitty!

Leer Baratheon · 24th June 2006, 03:25 AM

I thought there was a lot of advancement in the story. The whole Cersei storyline was very nice to see -- she's had that coming for a very long time. The only POV I was not thrilled about seeing was Brienne; for some reason I was so bored during her chapters. I also enjoyed the Braavos chapters -- one of my favorite things about ASoIaF are the exotic areas like the Free Cities, etc. AFFC set everything up perfectly for ADwD. We get to see Undead Gregor, Cersei hopefully die, Jamie's redemption, Arya becoming a FM, etc.

I enjoyed it.

Aegon the Unworthy · 24th June 2006, 08:06 AM

I dont know if Georgie really furthered the plot all that much. This series seems more haracter driven as opposed to plot-driven, and as such he did broaden the number of main characters. In retrospect he's probably gonna kill half of the current POVs off just to keep us on our toes so thats a good thing I guess.

If you want to read a series where you can literally read an entire book and the plot hasnt even shifted one whit, please refer to Robert Jordans Wheel of time series....approximately books three through nine (or ten or 11 or whatever its up to now)

Wiggum · 25th June 2006, 02:22 AM

I thought it was a brunch.

You have a little melon, a little bit of pastry and a toast of champaign. You leave feeling good, and full, but a couple of hours later you realize that a proper meal is in order.

I liked the book, but there were far, far too many pages addressing already established ideas. I don't think I need to be told that Brienne is ugly any more. I pretty much got that when we were introduced to her.

What it suffered from more than anything else though was a lack of lively dialogue. There is only the instance of Jaime taliking to his cousin (I think), where Jaime ends up clocking him, that the banter of a Bron - Tyrion relationship is in evidence. Martin's droll interaction between characters is such a huge part of the attraction of the series, and this book missed the boat on that.

I liked it, and need to read it a second time, but it is certainly the weakest of the four.

Wil · 26th June 2006, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by the smiling weirwood

ooh! what an adorably fat kitty!

Did you just call me fat?

Wil · 26th June 2006, 06:20 PM

The follow-ups are pretty much what I felt. The last 3 books were moving forward so quickly and with so much excitement that Feast (in comparison) felt like someone hitting the breaks. I kind of understand why G did it (he oringally planned to skip 5 years to get to Dance; he wanting to tie up loose ends realistically; he wanted to write about some characters he likes and wants to develop that the rest of the world hates (Brie...)). If Dance comes out within the next month to fill the void I won't be too bothered, but if he takes 2 more years to finish it then the "Brunch," sorry I mean "Feast" will have been unfilling and depressing.

Wil · 26th June 2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aegon the Unworthy

I dont know if Georgie really furthered the plot all that much. This series seems more haracter driven as opposed to plot-driven, and as such he did broaden the number of main characters. In retrospect he's probably gonna kill half of the current POVs off just to keep us on our toes so thats a good thing I guess.

If you want to read a series where you can literally read an entire book and the plot hasnt even shifted one whit, please refer to Robert Jordans Wheel of time series....approximately books three through nine (or ten or 11 or whatever its up to now)

-and Aegon, I agree. Jordon is XXXX! How can anyone spend 2 pages writing about a dress and 9 books about nothing?

The question is who do you blame, the Fool, or the fools who follow? The dude has sold a hell of a lot of books...

TK-421 · 27th June 2006, 07:46 PM

Now, to flogg this dead horse some more...

I think in past threads where this was discussed at nausea, the general consensus was that AFFC was a good book, did advance the storyline of the series, gave us interesting perspectives on certain characters (Cersei, Jaime, Sam, Arya), revealed some stuff (Dorne and Iron Island's plans) BUT was not as fast paced as ACOK or ASOS and the split in characters worked to a certain degree, however most people's favourite characters (Jon, Tyrion, Dany, Bran, Davos) were not in the book at all, thus wetting the appetite even more after a 5 year or so wait.

the smiling weirwood · 27th June 2006, 09:29 PM

Wait, is that kitty drinking a beer? That's funny. Wil, I just think your avatar is fat. And cuddly.

Wil · 27th June 2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the smiling weirwood

Wait, is that kitty drinking a beer? That's funny. Wil, I just think your avatar is fat. And cuddly.

On the couch, drinking a beer, watching _________.

Wil · 27th June 2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TK-421

Now, to flogg this dead horse some more...

I think in past threads where this was discussed at nausea, the general consensus was that AFFC was a good book, did advance the storyline of the series, gave us interesting perspectives on certain characters (Cersei, Jaime, Sam, Arya), revealed some stuff (Dorne and Iron Island's plans) BUT was not as fast paced as ACOK or ASOS and the split in characters worked to a certain degree, however most people's favourite characters (Jon, Tyrion, Dany, Bran, Davos) were not in the book at all, thus wetting the appetite even more after a 5 year or so wait.

Hey TK, I didn't read every thread when I tost this one in. Had other things to do. Thanks for you summary. Sorry it hurt your tummy.

the smiling weirwood · 27th June 2006, 09:39 PM

I see it! That's a little disturbing. How did you get that cat to pose like that? It is a real cat, right?

TK-421 · 30th June 2006, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wil

Hey TK, I didn't read every thread when I tost this one in. Had other things to do. Thanks for you summary. Sorry it hurt your tummy.

My tummy's fine thanks. Yes there are lots of threads in this forum. More than any of the other authors I think. Like the cat as well.

Wil · 7th July 2006, 04:17 PM

Thanks for the cat-compliments.

As for the posing, cats will do anything for a Coors Light (the sluts). I prefer Guiness myself.

23rd June 2006, 06:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Wil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 138	Was it a Feast or a snack? Was anyone else not thrilled by A Feast for Crows? There were some interesting things, but in the end not much really changed in the story. Opinions?

23rd June 2006, 09:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
the smiling weirwood Axes and Saws Prohibited Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,602	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? ooh! what an adorably fat kitty!

24th June 2006, 03:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Leer Baratheon Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 7	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? I thought there was a lot of advancement in the story. The whole Cersei storyline was very nice to see -- she's had that coming for a very long time. The only POV I was not thrilled about seeing was Brienne; for some reason I was so bored during her chapters. I also enjoyed the Braavos chapters -- one of my favorite things about ASoIaF are the exotic areas like the Free Cities, etc. AFFC set everything up perfectly for ADwD. We get to see Undead Gregor, Cersei hopefully die, Jamie's redemption, Arya becoming a FM, etc. I enjoyed it.

24th June 2006, 08:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Aegon the Unworthy Opinionated Procastinator Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 775	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? I dont know if Georgie really furthered the plot all that much. This series seems more haracter driven as opposed to plot-driven, and as such he did broaden the number of main characters. In retrospect he's probably gonna kill half of the current POVs off just to keep us on our toes so thats a good thing I guess. If you want to read a series where you can literally read an entire book and the plot hasnt even shifted one whit, please refer to Robert Jordans Wheel of time series....approximately books three through nine (or ten or 11 or whatever its up to now)

25th June 2006, 02:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Wiggum Big Pimping Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 559	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? I thought it was a brunch. You have a little melon, a little bit of pastry and a toast of champaign. You leave feeling good, and full, but a couple of hours later you realize that a proper meal is in order. I liked the book, but there were far, far too many pages addressing already established ideas. I don't think I need to be told that Brienne is ugly any more. I pretty much got that when we were introduced to her. What it suffered from more than anything else though was a lack of lively dialogue. There is only the instance of Jaime taliking to his cousin (I think), where Jaime ends up clocking him, that the banter of a Bron - Tyrion relationship is in evidence. Martin's droll interaction between characters is such a huge part of the attraction of the series, and this book missed the boat on that. I liked it, and need to read it a second time, but it is certainly the weakest of the four.

26th June 2006, 06:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 138	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? The follow-ups are pretty much what I felt. The last 3 books were moving forward so quickly and with so much excitement that Feast (in comparison) felt like someone hitting the breaks. I kind of understand why G did it (he oringally planned to skip 5 years to get to Dance; he wanting to tie up loose ends realistically; he wanted to write about some characters he likes and wants to develop that the rest of the world hates (Brie...)). If Dance comes out within the next month to fill the void I won't be too bothered, but if he takes 2 more years to finish it then the "Brunch," sorry I mean "Feast" will have been unfilling and depressing.

27th June 2006, 07:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
TK-421 I Do Not Sow Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,998	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? Now, to flogg this dead horse some more... I think in past threads where this was discussed at nausea, the general consensus was that AFFC was a good book, did advance the storyline of the series, gave us interesting perspectives on certain characters (Cersei, Jaime, Sam, Arya), revealed some stuff (Dorne and Iron Island's plans) BUT was not as fast paced as ACOK or ASOS and the split in characters worked to a certain degree, however most people's favourite characters (Jon, Tyrion, Dany, Bran, Davos) were not in the book at all, thus wetting the appetite even more after a 5 year or so wait.

27th June 2006, 09:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
the smiling weirwood Axes and Saws Prohibited Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,602	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? Wait, is that kitty drinking a beer? That's funny. Wil, I just think your avatar is fat. And cuddly.

27th June 2006, 09:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
the smiling weirwood Axes and Saws Prohibited Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,602	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? I see it! That's a little disturbing. How did you get that cat to pose like that? It is a real cat, right?

7th July 2006, 04:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Wil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 138	Re: Was it a Feast or a snack? Thanks for the cat-compliments. As for the posing, cats will do anything for a Coors Light (the sluts). I prefer Guiness myself.

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