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Old 22nd May 2008, 06:23 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

My first thought was like many others here have posted, that Wolf was a form of the necessity.

However, after recently re-reading the series I came to think that Wolf may infact be a part of Eriond. Since Eriond is starting off in the East (slowly building momentum) it stands to reason that he's in the West also, though not in his normal form, slowly preparing the future King (Prince Geran).

I may be reaching, I dunno... fact is we'll never now. Any which way, I still like to think that there's something more to the last paragraph of Polgara the Sorceress then meets the eye.

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Old 22nd May 2008, 09:37 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

That's an interesting theory, one I hadn't heard before. It's been a while since I read the books, but you're probably right in that we may never know.

Oh, and welcome to the Chronicles, Din!
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Old 23rd May 2008, 10:04 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Thank you Talysia,

I appreciate the welcome among the Chronicles. I'm glad to be amongst kindred spirits at last (too corny? but true!).

May Leigh RIP (enjoyed her works with David).

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Old 1st March 2012, 12:49 PM   #49 (permalink)
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wolf represents the new purpose of the universe

I think you're right. The purpose who won at Kell...

I've just finished the book today and with it the whole of the Belgariad/Malorean series. I will miss all the characters so much. I was crying so much. Such a lovely end though...
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Old 15th May 2012, 11:27 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

I remember reading a nice little fanfic once, and it theorized that Wolf was actually Garion's father Geran reborn, in order to look after his grandson.

It would explain some things if that was true, but imho Wolf is just a normal wolf. Maybe his and Geran's relationship is the same as Eriond and Horse's was.
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Old 9th February 2013, 08:48 PM   #51 (permalink)
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could wolf be one of the sorcerer brotherhood that died just before zedar left the vale? or even zedar himself?
Because zedar left to spy on torak from within torak's circle- which would be a non-evil thing to do. he only went evil when torak turned him- would eriond give him another chance? zedar was pretty much manipulated by the prophecies and both eriond and torak.
And both beldin and belgarath said that zedar's unforgivable sin was killing durnik. But garion restored durnik. does that in some way mitigate the action? if zedar had not done what he did then the force of torak's will upon polgara would have overwhelmed her, as it would have done at the battle of vo mimbre without the reinforcment of poledra and ul in the owl form. zedar had been tormented by what the prophecies said he was to do and by being subject to torak's will for thousands of years, and in a way he was actually acting upon the directions of the prophecy as well.
and there is no type of cave or den or hole in a rock that belgarath could stick zedar into that poledra as a wolf could not drag him back out of if that is what she wanted to do.
Maybe the wolf cub is zedar's second chance. Zedar always reminded me of that character from M.A.S.H.; charles winchester, pompous and full of himself, while belgarath always reminded me of hawkeye.
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could wolf be one of the sorcerer brotherhood that died just before zedar left the vale? or even zedar himself?
Because zedar left to spy on torak from within torak's circle- which would be a non-evil thing to do. he only went evil when torak turned him- would eriond give him another chance? zedar was pretty much manipulated by the prophecies and both eriond and torak.
And both beldin and belgarath said that zedar's unforgivable sin was killing durnik. But garion restored durnik. does that in some way mitigate the action? if zedar had not done what he did then the force of torak's will upon polgara would have overwhelmed her, as it would have done at the battle of vo mimbre without the reinforcment of poledra and ul in the owl form. zedar had been tormented by what the prophecies said he was to do and by being subject to torak's will for thousands of years, and in a way he was actually acting upon the directions of the prophecy as well.
and there is no type of cave or den or hole in a rock that belgarath could stick zedar into that poledra as a wolf could not drag him back out of if that is what she wanted to do.
Maybe the wolf cub is zedar's second chance. Zedar always reminded me of that character from M.A.S.H.; charles winchester, pompous and full of himself, while belgarath always reminded me of hawkeye.
Zedar isn't dead - which is why belgarath feels so guilty about sealing him up in the rock.
The other brothers didn't "die" they willed themselves out of existence - nothing about Belmakor or Belsambar exists anymore - not their will, not their bodies, not even an atom of their being.
More to the point, at no time in the series is any type of reincarnation even hinted at.
You're also mistaken about Poledra being able to drag Zedar out of the rock Belgarath sealed him in. Belgarath himself states quite emphatically that no-one but he himself could take Zedar out of it. Owing to no other entity being able to duplicate the thoughts and will that put Zedar where he is.
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Old 20th February 2013, 07:56 AM   #53 (permalink)
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but remember poledra is the woman that watches. she inhabits the minds of people because as a wolf she is used to being a part of a group mind. the distinctions between what should be belgaraths own thoughts and what poledra can share simply don't exist. poledra learned sorcery while watching belgarath in his tower, atempting to find an acceptable way to become his mate. then she learned how to transform her shape once when he did. poledra was the containing force against zandramas. Her power is almost equal to belgarath's own. and as polgara has stated, she never left him.
but anyways i thought that maybe after watching belgarath get po'faced over 'losing' her for three thousand years or so, i just thought she might do it to keep him from getting into a funk again. poledra loves belgarath sooo much.
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