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Old 25th January 2008, 07:50 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

Hey doesn't Poledra say that he was just an ordinary wolf pup that she found (This is when Belgarath asked about it after she reveals herself but I can't find the exact passage) and if I remember rightly in the Belgarath book he makes reference to the fact that wolves don't lie?

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Old 25th January 2008, 09:22 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

No one really knows where Wolf came from. But hey Poledra told Belgarath that she found Wolf. But she told that to him in human form so maybe theres a difference? Maybe she cant lie as a wolf but she can as a human? I might be wrong.
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Old 20th February 2008, 07:09 PM   #33 (permalink)
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In the end of Polgara the Sorceress, there are quite some hints about Wolf being more then just a simple Wolf. Any one care to try and shed some light at that?
How far into Pawn of Prophecy ARE you!?
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Old 21st February 2008, 01:03 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Wolves might not lie but Poledra pushed the limits on it to the extreme. Polgara asked her where her puppies were, and was told that there was only one left etc... instead of saying that it was one she had taken responsibility for. I still think that wolf was a male child that was "held" from being born. Wolves having usually more than two puppies in a litter. Simpler terms, still think Wolf is Polgara's full brother, just a looooong time waiting to be born.
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Old 21st February 2008, 07:17 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Wolves might not lie but Poledra pushed the limits on it to the extreme. Polgara asked her where her puppies were, and was told that there was only one left etc... instead of saying that it was one she had taken responsibility for. I still think that wolf was a male child that was "held" from being born. Wolves having usually more than two puppies in a litter. Simpler terms, still think Wolf is Polgara's full brother, just a looooong time waiting to be born.
"Mister Wolf" or "Old Wolf" is obviously Belgarath... Is everyone talking about a part of the book further down the line or something? Because i've only just started on Magicians Gambit.
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Old 21st February 2008, 07:26 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

I think people are talking about the wolf cub that appears towards the end of the Malloreon series - the follow up to the Belgariad. It's been a while since I read it, though.
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Old 22nd February 2008, 09:08 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I think people are talking about the wolf cub that appears towards the end of the Malloreon series - the follow up to the Belgariad. It's been a while since I read it, though.
It all makes sense now. Originally, i had thought it was Belgarath they were talking about, and that's such an obvious thing to see in the book
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Old 23rd February 2008, 04:16 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Wolves might not lie but Poledra pushed the limits on it to the extreme. Polgara asked her where her puppies were, and was told that there was only one left etc... instead of saying that it was one she had taken responsibility for. I still think that wolf was a male child that was "held" from being born. Wolves having usually more than two puppies in a litter. Simpler terms, still think Wolf is Polgara's full brother, just a looooong time waiting to be born.
as much as this would be cool... Belgarath finally having a son... i can't believe it. If for no other reason than its a slap in Polgara's face - to know that Necessity, or Poledra even, conspired to keep a brother secret and on hold for 4000 years and yet subjected her to constant pain and heartache in the meantime. Imagine the help a brother could have provided - another sorceror to help Belgarath and Co.
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Old 23rd February 2008, 04:34 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

and for HOW many years was Poledra dead? considering how much fun the Necessity had with holding pregnancies at bay (Zith) the possibility is out there. Though if Wolf was a third child of POledra and Belgarath, it would possibly be that he is a momma's boy. Polgara and Beldaran were more their father's daughters, taught and corrupted by him.

anyways, its more likely that the pup was a common wolf that had to be left behind, and not related.
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Old 23rd February 2008, 04:46 AM   #40 (permalink)
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common wolf pup is all i ever thought of him as.
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Old 23rd February 2008, 05:49 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

Reading the excerpts Sayn posted on the last page I still think wolf is more than just a wolf. For me he's always been the Necessity in holiday mode. I mean Eddings gave it so much personality it wouldn't seem fair for it to just disappear or die and unlike in the Sparhawk series it's not flying off to continue the battle on the next world, so I think before the finale it was kind of semi-concious, just waiting and now that everything is 'done' the Necessity is free to sit back and watch the world unfold as it should (and on some level how it always wanted it too, despite needing to be nuetral) and let's face it an immortal wolf isn't going to stand out much in that particular family .
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Old 23rd February 2008, 06:59 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Actually Garion's Necessity became part of the New Necessity. while the Angarak Necessity and Zandramas were sent out as a galactic level spackling job.
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Old 23rd February 2008, 08:12 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

in addition to that, we are given several instances where common wolves speak to various members of Belgarath's family ... to belgarath himself, to Belgarion, Poledra herself started out as nothing more than a common wolf who happened to bump into belgarath (though clearly necessity was at work here), Polgara, and again with this cub to Geran. these conversations in no way imply that these common wolves are anything but. Also Geran is not able to communicate with the wolf as sorcerors do to eachother, Garion taught him to speak wolvish.
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Old 24th February 2008, 12:37 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

I don't disagree that wolf could be a wolf but as I said for me it always seemed like he was more. I still think the sections posted by Sayn point towards the Necessity, if a new one was formed it's maybe fitting that it presents as a young pup.

Poledra's comments would have worked maybe with an old experienced wolf but with a new puppy? True she might have been referring to a wolf's hunting instincts but I think it's kind of a nice way to wrap up with it being the Necessity.
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Old 24th February 2008, 06:56 AM   #45 (permalink)
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fair enough.
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