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Old 2nd October 2006, 03:50 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

i think so too...

i remember a pig as a pet... lmfao
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Old 6th October 2006, 02:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

Ok, maybe I am stretching a bit here, but I think maybe wolf is the "purpose" that gave Garion instructions. Maybe a portion of the awareness stuck around to see how things would work out, or maybe it ia Auldur. But I don't think that he is "just" a wolf
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Old 6th October 2006, 09:06 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

Dogs already exist :P look at "urvon's hounds" which is basically enlarged doggies!

And if remember correctly Ce"Nedra said "Every young boy should have a dog"

I really doubt she meant a wolf :P
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Old 10th July 2007, 01:44 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ok I think Wolf is like a new follower of Aldur just not of age yet, I mean Poledra started off as a wolf and she was Aldurs follower from the begining, remember she was "the Woman that watches".

On the same note Who exactly is horse? I know hes connected to Eriond but it doesnt really mention hes purpose just that hes special cause he was brought back from death from garion.
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Old 10th July 2007, 02:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

I think Horse doesn't have an identity short of being the semi-divine horse that Eriond rides/is companion to. Perhaps his purpose is to help Eriond travel the world very quickly to keep an eye on things (although he is divine, so why he would need a horse is another matter). It was part of the Prophecy, too, I think, as the voice inside Garion's mind said Done when Horse and Eriond met for the first time. Either that or they just became such good friends that he couldn't bear to part with him.

As for who Wolf is, well, that could be a future story. As it stands, I don't see the young wolf as anything other than a normal wolf, but as you say, Poledra did start out that way...
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Old 11th July 2007, 12:51 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Its still doesnt solve the fact of horses existance, was it part of the prophecy at all? or was it just to proove that even without the orb garion was capable of doing anything. plus in none of the books of the seers it doesnt even mention horse.
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Old 11th July 2007, 07:55 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

That's a good point. I hadn't given it much thought up until then, but I shall have to get the books out again and put on my thinking cap. It may have been part of the Prophecy, although I'm not sure.
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Old 13th July 2007, 03:05 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Ive checked the books af the seers in the rivan codex it doesnt mention horse at all and i cant find a site were people have taken extracts from the B and M and made a coherant rightly orderd prophecy. I remember David Eddings mentioning that the reason why he didnt add the actual prophecy in the rivan codex is because he didnt want to create a cult/religioun following hes books lol. So....Whyd he leave in the holy scriptures of the gods in the rivan codex then?
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Old 13th July 2007, 07:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

hmmm...
1) I think Wolf really is just an abandoned cub.
2) Ce'Nedra bonded with him - a lonely and injured 'baby' -while searching for her stolen child. Probably some sublimating going on there!
3) In Belagarath, doesn't Beldin mention attempting to change into an Angarak to see if the language of other races can be learnt that way? Is it possible Geran has a hereditary ability to speak wolfish, which is only shown through his relationship with the Wolf? Like children of bilingual households can learn both lanuguages by exposure?

Abbot, I don't think any prophecy's ever coherent! I think he left the holy scriptures in to show off (he admits it with the Nyissan text). Also to prove how much background he did before even starting out.
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Old 8th August 2007, 06:31 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

Ok its been a LONG time since I read this so I may be well off but from memory isnt the last scene in the Mallorean between Geran and the wolf?

I remember thinking at the time that there were hints that the 'purpose' was the wolf. Maybe just piggy backing rather than entirely during the series as it had to remain neutral but once its purpose was fulfilled and everything is back on track it's free of responsibilities and decided it wanted to relax and watch the world as it should be through the eyes of the wolf for awhile?
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Old 19th August 2007, 04:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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First point, Several characters in Belgariad and mallorean have learned to speak wolf. without transofrming themselves into the shape of a wolf. Polgara and Garion had been written to understand bird language before they ever changed into an avian form. as far as wolf goes, during the polgara epilogue, the Eddings did put a lot of effort into encouraging the readers to think that wolf is different/special/something not QUITE as it seems, if that is the case I'd vote that despite the words spoken, he IS POledra and Belgarath's Son. after all Zith's Pregnancy was held in stasis for a while, why not have a god stop Poledra from delivering her third "pup" until a specific time. yeah a bit of a stretch, I know, at the end they gave a description of him basically patiently watching, waiting that sort of thing. fits kinda nicely to my mind of wolf being related to poledra, so toss a curve ball that way...
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Old 29th August 2007, 09:34 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Who is Wolf?

I have the book Polgara the Sorceress right in front of me so I'm going to leave a few paragraphs.

That subterranean little game Aunt Pol and her father had played with each other for centuries and produced a surprise winner, a winner they hadn’t even realized was taking part in their game. They’d spent three thousand years nipping at each other in half−serious play, and for all that time, the wolf Poledra had watched them play, patiently waiting for them to squirm around into the exact position where she wanted them to be, and then she had pounced.
“You’d understand that, wouldn’t you, Wolf?” she murmured to her son’s companion.
Wolf opened his golden eyes and thumped his tail briefly on the bed in acknowledgment.
That startled Ce’Nedra just a bit. Wolf seemed to know exactly what she was thinking. Who was this Wolf anyhow? She quickly pushed that thought into the back of her mind. The possibility that Wolf might not be who − or what − he seemed was something Ce’Nedra wasn’t prepared to deal with just now.

This next paragraph is the last of the book.

Wolf lay there on the foot of Geran’s bed looking at the dying fire in the fireplace with those golden eyes of his for quite a long time. Everything seemed to be as it was supposed to be, so Wolf sighed contentedly, stretched his muzzle out on his front paws, and went back to sleep.


Maybe David & Leigh Eddings put these scenes in the book so that our imaginations can take over and so that we can form our own opinions. Authors have done that before.
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Old 23rd January 2008, 08:34 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Ive checked the books af the seers in the rivan codex it doesnt mention horse at all and i cant find a site were people have taken extracts from the B and M and made a coherant rightly orderd prophecy. I remember David Eddings mentioning that the reason why he didnt add the actual prophecy in the rivan codex is because he didnt want to create a cult/religioun following hes books lol. So....Whyd he leave in the holy scriptures of the gods in the rivan codex then?
Hahaha! Even though he wont include the prophecy in the rivan codex I'm still obssessed with it. Lol. Actually can you remember when Eriond, Polgara and Durnik visited Garion and Ce'Nadra in Riva? Garion gave Horse to Eriond and the prophech said "Done" and Garion asked what was it that was done and the prophecy said something about "Nicely done Garion. I wanted those two together" or something like that. Its in one of the Mallorean books.

As for Wolf. I think he's just a simple wolf. Or maybe Geran got Wolf and Eriond got Horse as part of the reward of the Prophecy? Remember that Geran was the Child of Dark in the end and Eriond was the Child of Light. I dont know I might be wrong.
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Old 23rd January 2008, 04:21 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Its still doesnt solve the fact of horses existance, was it part of the prophecy at all? or was it just to proove that even without the orb garion was capable of doing anything. plus in none of the books of the seers it doesnt even mention horse.
Horse is the calf that Garion brought back from the dead. He's special because he passed through the veil of life and death, and I think that's how he somehow got special powers.....though he certainly didn't help at all when Garion sunk himself into the ground in the Vale!
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Old 24th January 2008, 01:01 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Lol, very true, Mana!

The more I think about it, the more I think Eddings put these little mysteries in there to make us wonder. It's been a while since I read them, true, but...
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