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Originally Posted by TorrnT

Sorry , I should have said, follows a female template, (my mistake)

But that isn't the case, either. Prior to the penis and scrotum, there's no clitoris, labia, or vagina, nor anything that had ever started to become like them or would ever have become them or was any more like them than like a penis and scrotum. Prior to the testes, there are no ovaries, nor anything that had ever started to become like them or would ever have become them or was any more like them than like testes. There's just nothing at all to identify the fetus with either sex.

Originally Posted by TorrnT

Information taken from Mark Leyner and Billy Goldberg, M.D.
Human nipples appear in the third or fourth week of development, well before the sex characteristics.

Note the last 5 words there. Anything that happens before there are any sex characteristics can't be following one sex's template or the other's; if it were following either sex's template already, then it wouldn't be well before the sex characteristics because there'd already be sex characteristics there.

Originally Posted by TorrnT

maybe I am being pedantic, In my mind an accident is something that can be avoided...
Hmmmm..I seem to have worked my way into a paradox.. Looks like I have to accept "accidental"...

(wow, I do not like that terminology, it seems scary or something) LOL.
One of the few times my sense of order and reason takes a pounding.

I don't understand what this dilemma is.

Originally Posted by HardScienceFan

I think it was Gould ,in conjunction with Vrba,who pointed out that the term 'adaptation'
is a misnomer anyway.

How so? (The word's always bugged me because things "adapt"; they don't "adaptate"... but that's a separate issue from misnomers, which are about what words mean...)

Originally Posted by HardScienceFan

The fossil record is a poor tool to prove evolution.

How so?

Originally Posted by HardScienceFan

I just read a thesis on evolution in the conodont genus Palmatolepis.
(Just using the Pa-element of a multielement taxon,but no matter).

Why did you bring up Palmatolepis and then not seem to say anything about it, and what is this about "elements"?

Originally Posted by HardScienceFan

if anything,evolution is mosaical,or leaves that impression in the fossil record)

Do you mean how it seems to create lots and lots of separate lineages instead of just a few? (Gould called this the "bush" diagram instead of the "line or ladder" diagram.)