Is Olver Gaidal Cain?

[Lightfire]

I've got a strong feeling that Ovler is Gaidal Cain...
He is ugly.... he is daring (Birgitte always says that Cain is brave to point
of foolish) .....
He wos born before Birgitte... and time in Telaran'riod goes at a different pace from the real world....
He is spending a lot of time around soldiers... gonna be a good fighta, like Cain wos....
Birgitte is unusually fond of him.... and is already forgetting about the past Gaidal Cain...
Wot do u think?

[chump]

I had never thougt of that but now that you mention it is seems quite likely.

[PanzerOberst]

Olver could be, RJ has made it a point to mention that sometimes Gaidal Cain would meet Brigitte as a younger man. I think there is another that qualifies too, but he is older. Can't remember who at this moment.

[Niolani]

I've been thinking for a long time that Olver might be Gaidal.

[Azure]

I've thought that for a long time. The ages aren't likely to match up as they did in the past as Brigitte returned directly into the world rather than being reborn into it.

[Lightfire]

I am also pretty damn sure that Noal is Jain Farstrider; since he knows so much about him (on a personal level), and has been on so many adventures and seems regretful whenever he talks about him.

[Roheryn]

those are some pretty interesting thoughts... although I think they could be right...

[star.torturer]

reading the WOT FAQ i seam to remember them dismising this idea, or not, i dont know

[JBI]

I disagree because I do not believe gaidel will be part of the series. Jordan has said that he doesn't intend to finish everything by the end, and he intends to leave room. Gaidel left TAR way after oliver was born. In fact, I can't remember but I think the Shaido already hit the wetlands before he was born.

[Jason_Taverner]

I don't think he is. I've think we've already met Gaidal. Min spent a lot of time talking to him. He is already a warder he was staying at a Inn the same time as Min and she was friends with him. He carried two swords and was very ugly but had a fartherly friendship with her. I can't remmeber which book its in 5 or 6 I think its after Min left Baerlon

[JBI]

Eek ment to say Oliver was born way before Gaidel was spun out. The other faction that went up was that Gaidel was Mahiro,(Spelling er.?) But I think that died. Truely though, I doubt that we will see him (Unless the horn calls him)

[Jason_Taverner]

well you don't know if he left before or after Oliver was born because time passes differently in the world of dreams

[sachisedai]

I think it safe to say that he is. Birgitte said herself to Nynaeve that time works different 'it could be ten years in your world and only a few days here' Speaking of the Dream world. Olver is 10 years old, has similar facial characteristics as Gaidal is described and it just seems very likely (I'm going with Noal being Farstrider as well )

[timekiller]

i thought he was but i read on wotmania that in an interview RJ said oliver isnt gaidal Cain because time in TAR cant run backwards and oliver is way to old so he isn't Gaidal Cain just a red herring.
I also remember something that Noel is Jain Farstrider but Ishy frigged up his mind somehow. Do you remember in the first book there was a man found tinker wagons and said that the DO is goning to break free and blind the great serpent ( or something like that ) there are theroies that that man was Jain/Noel and Issy had made him say that to miss direct people or something

[Blade Master]

Originally Posted by Lightfire

I am also pretty damn sure that Noal is Jain Farstrider; since he knows so much about him (on a personal level), and has been on so many adventures and seems regretful whenever he talks about him.

http://encyclopaedia-wot.org:8008/ch...al_charin.html

this says that Jain Charin A.K.A Jain Farstrider ends his life and becomes Noal Charin