Eragon

[Majimaune]

Originally Posted by Revelation

Was is really a coincidence? Or was it a shrewed marketing ploy?

It was a marketing ploy. They wanted to sell books and they chose the right person and time. Because it was fantasy they were able to say he was a teen Tolkien, which he is deffinately not, and his books were the next biggest thing. Now the thing it that if, and he probably will, write another book/series after Inheritance he will imediately get published and so another bad book will beon the shelves with lots of people buying it until, by word of mouth, is passed around that it is not well writen and it was a waste of money to buy and that they will now go and burn their copy just for the enjoyment of burning something.

Originally Posted by The Upright Man

my god common, hes more longwinded than you

That would be pretty hard I would think. This is just one post, Common is long winded all the time , or almost always.

However, young writers like himself despise him. They loathe his books, they loathe the things he says, and most of all they loathe what he stands for. To them he is not a hero, or a genius, or a good writer. The fact of the matter is this: he did not go through those years of hard work. Instead of suffering all the anguish and self-doubt which a writer usually must, he had the world effectively handed to him on a silver platter. Does he have that folder of rejection letters? Does he have that terror that he will never realise his dream? No. Instead he has something which is normally reserved only for those of rare and special ability, something which should have gone to a truly original and distinguished writer. Not one who churns out simplistic, unoriginal airport novels aimed at a young or inexperienced audience.

This is exactly what I feel. I, myself would like to write novals one day and would not, EVER, like to be put under the same catagory as Paolini. The other day I was at the library and I was looking for a book on the computers and the person next to me was typing in Christopher Paolini. I felt like saying to them "Dont, its a s%$t book anyway." Unfortunately I didnt so now they are probably reading that book and thinking "Wow this is great. I wonder how some one at the age of 15 came up with a plot like this, I would never be able to" because they have never read any Tolkien. The person I am talking about was about 12 or 13.

So in the end what I am really trying to say is: Its not only the young authers that suffer here. Its the Tolkien fans as well. Unfortunately for me, I fall into both catagories. Thats really the main reasons I hate Eragon. I will, however, read the last book, just to see if he gets any better or if he just uses more plagiarism then in the others.

Sorry if I offened anyone in this post. I do not mean anything by it.

Man that took me a while to write.

[Commonmind]

<i>That would be pretty hard I would think. This is just one post, Common is long winded all the time , or almost always.</i>

Wow, I've already got a reputation. I'm just glad I don't carry on that much in my fiction.

Edit: I'm going to keep those incorrect tags there, just to show everyone how completely tired I am (and to further prove how long-winded I am)

[Rosemary]

In the end though, does it really matter what age Paolini was when he wrote the book or how many people compare it to Tolkein or other famous authors? Does it really matter if he didn't have to work so hard as other authors?
The only thing I would agree with is the attitude of the marketing stratagy.

It might have too many cliche's but as an adult I still enjoyed the story.

[The Upright Man]

i agree its good but when its made out to be better its pisses fans of the genres off

[sassy1]

i try not to compare books and authors - there's always something you can say one author stole from another author if you look really hard

I thought Eragon was a really good book, so was Eldest, and I'm now waiting for the 3rd one to come out

I think really people should say what their own opinion is, but don't say it like everyone should agree - what one person loves, another one will hate... I suppose that makes life more interesting, but just because some people don't like the book, it doesn't mean that nobody does or should

[The Upright Man]

im saying i like the books, just not the fact that they are bigged up to be tolkien or jkr. cmon ive seen sites sy
ayin rowling's last chapter of hp is gonna b a direct rip off of summit she stole from paolini and what he wanted to end inheritance

[Majimaune]

Originally Posted by The Upright Man

ayin rowling's last chapter of hp is gonna b a direct rip off of summit she stole from paolini and what he wanted to end inheritance

What do you mean there Upright?

P.S. Uprigt Man could you please make your writting so it is understandable.

[The Upright Man]

what i mean is theres some Inheritance trilogy fanatics saying that jkr copied her last chapter of hp off of paolinis last chapter

[Marvolo]

Originally Posted by The Upright Man

what i mean is theres some Inheritance trilogy fanatics saying that jkr copied her last chapter of hp off of paolinis last chapter

The day J. K. Rowling has to resort to stealing from Paolini is the same day the world ends.

[the_faery_queen]

besides, jk rowling doesn't really like fantasy, does she? she's always putting it down, from what i can gather, so i don't think she'd have read it, or know anything about it to even need to copy it.

[Marvolo]

Who can blame her if Paolini is what people consider fantasy today. I like to call it tripe.

[Connavar]

I would say JKR is fantasy to people that dont read fantasy.

Which is an ignorance stance, looking down on a genre only cause you see a YA book that is overhyped.


Here in sweden JKR is the most mainstream to people that dont read fantasy or even books thanks to Harry Potter. Paolini is pretty unknown here, he is known only to fantasy readers and YA readers. He isnt known to everybody like JR.


The only person to ever say a good thing about his books to me is my little younger brother that likes Eragon despite he too thinks its too clichè

[the_faery_queen]

i think that's very true. a lot of my friends who LOVE potter dont' read any other fantasy stuff. and people who do tend to think potter is ok, or crap (depending) ut not so many think it's amazing.

most people i know only know about eragon beacuse they hate how he got published and what he stands for. i know that's the only reaosn i know about him

[The Upright Man]

is it just me here, but does it seem your friends don't read. period.

over here in wales, people look down on me 'coz i'm always reading in school, books that isn't forced upon them for their subject

plenty of them, when i asked, did indeed compare Eragon (film) to be better than LOTR (book and film), which i am disgusted at. and very few have read harry potter, due to the above mentioned reason of the subject of English forcing them to read it in years 7 and 8.

(sorry yanks don't know how that relates to your system, but it is quite literally the 7th and 8th year of school)


i have just started to read pern (:O i know i'm a bit slow) and i have found shocking similarities to the book and the inheritance trilogy.

to be honest i think Eragon should never have been properly published except on a fanfic site somewhere because it is just that, a fanfic, containing blaringly obvious references to ther books and cliches from them as well, i also found a little amusement in the fact that in Eldest theres a quote lifted directly from Tron about half way through, i only realised 'coz i watch Tron 'bout an hour before i began reading eldest.


My God i have become long-winded haven't i. DAMN YOU COMMONMIND!!!!

[Majimaune]

Originally Posted by The Upright Man

over here in wales, people look down on me 'coz i'm always reading in school, books that isn't forced upon them for their subject

Whats wrong with reading in school. I mean I dont do it on a regular bases but if I'm bored then I do.

Originally Posted by The Upright Man

plenty of them, when i asked, did indeed compare Eragon (film) to be better than LOTR (book and film), which i am disgusted at. and very few have read harry potter, due to the above mentioned reason of the subject of English forcing them to read it in years 7 and 8.

I saw a short for Eragon movie coming out on DVD and I said "I refuse to watch that crap again." I will readily watch/read LOTR again and again but Eragon I will never watch again (if I can help it) but I will probably read it again but not like I read LOTR.

Originally Posted by The Upright Man

to be honest i think Eragon should never have been properly published except on a fanfic site somewhere because it is just that, a fanfic, containing blaringly obvious references to ther books and cliches from them as well, i also found a little amusement in the fact that in Eldest theres a quote lifted directly from Tron about half way through, i only realised 'coz i watch Tron 'bout an hour before i began reading eldest.

In Eldest (I think) some one says "Keep an eye on him wont you." "Two eyes if I can spare them." Direct quote from LOTR. Also Brom repressents Ben Kenobi from SW and Eragon is like Luke. I mean there is NO original story in Inheritance.

Originally Posted by The Upright Man

My God i have become long-winded haven't i. DAMN YOU COMMONMIND!!!!

Yeah I think its catching. My posts are becoming longer as well.