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Marky Lazer · 2nd June 2006, 10:39 AM

SPOILER

I haven't seen this part, so someone else should correct me if I'm wrong... But after the credits, you hear prof X's voice... I'm not sure how and what... we might want to have some Weaveness here to explain it better than I can.

Paradox 99 · 2nd June 2006, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeris

My biggest complaint was what they did with the characters. I mean come on. The first two movies showed a lot of Rogue coming to terms with her powers, then she's in the third one for, what, 5 minutes, and gets rid of them??? And the thing between Mystique and Magneto...that really pissed me off. Magneto would not just leave her there like that. If anything, he would try to find some way to help her get her powers back. I don't believe that Magneto is evil, necessarily, considering his background. He went through a lot with Mystique, and wouldn't do that to her. And what they did with the Professor? Sad. What they did with Scott? A cheap plot so they could get Logan and Jean together.

I don't agree with you about Rogue - I always found her quite annoying, so the less of her the better. But I suppose it's a little confusing for people who hadn't seen the first two.

As for Magneto, well, I completely disagree there. The guy's evil and hides behind a set of warped principles to justify his actions and dupe the others - even X. I totally believed that he would do that to Mystique and thought it was an interesting moment in the film.

I agree about Scott though.

Paradox 99 · 2nd June 2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marky Lazer

SPOILER

I haven't seen this part, so someone else should correct me if I'm wrong... But after the credits, you hear prof X's voice... I'm not sure how and what... we might want to have some Weaveness here to explain it better than I can.

Yes, I was told about that too. Remember when he's teaching his pupils and asks whether it was ethical for a man in a coma to have another consciousness transferred into the body? Well there was the clue.

Brown Rat · 2nd June 2006, 02:57 PM

I used to work in a comic store and collect comics, but that was twenty yeas ago, and although I was an enormous Avengers fan, I didn't read much X-Men. So . . . I'm going to ask a Big Question for one of you devoted X-Men readers to answer.

How does the third movie (and the other movies, too) fit in or not fit in with the comics themselves? How much of the plot comes from the comics? I'm interested in hearing specific details, if you've got them.

Marky Lazer · 2nd June 2006, 03:02 PM

I don't have the real details because I never read the comic, but I've heard people say they messed a lot with the story of the comics, including good guy joining the 'bad' side and things like that.

BookStop · 2nd June 2006, 05:40 PM

Spoiler -

Well, they're getting thier powers back, right? And X is alive and well. Does this mean more movies in the mix? The title Last Stand would suggest not.

Marky Lazer · 2nd June 2006, 05:45 PM

The name would suggest there's not more, and, I'm not sure about the profits of the first week, but if they are disappointing, then I'd say no. But, you never know, the last scene with Magneto did leave it pretty open-ended. You have to say, as long as they make new comics, you can also make a new movie out of it. And the comics are so awfully popular I don't believe Marvel will stop making them any time soon

Paradox 99 · 2nd June 2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BookStop

Spoiler -

Well, they're getting thier powers back, right? And X is alive and well. Does this mean more movies in the mix? The title Last Stand would suggest not.

Aparently they're not planning on making an X-Men 4, but they are going to make a Wolverine film.

Marky Lazer · 2nd June 2006, 06:03 PM

But the Wolverine movie isn't news anymore. I knew that before this one was in the cinemas...

BookStop · 2nd June 2006, 06:48 PM

Didn't this movie break box office records for an opening weekend? If its momentum continues, and let's face it, everyone who has seen the first 2 will be seeing this one, it could become so profitable that the production co. will try for a fourth. At least, I would.

Mouse · 2nd June 2006, 08:11 PM

I would like to see a fourth. I thought it was good but could've done with being a bit longer, just to get more character story in! Plus I would've liked to have seen Gambit show up! Apparently Josh Holloway (Lost) was meant to play him but he thought that Gambit was too simialr to his character Sawyer, in Lost so he decided against it!

Marky Lazer · 2nd June 2006, 08:31 PM

Yeah, on Weave's forum we discussed this as well. Gambit pretty much is the coolest X-man, and I couldn't believe he wasn't in. Although, he was a bit in... At least, if I believe the cartoon which I used to watch. Gambit was always a bit argueing with Wolverine wasn't he? And Cyclopse took that role, I guess.

Anyway, I agree that it was too short. They crammed in so much characters that it was too short to keep 'track' of them all, and define them all and so on.

I argued also that Clive Owen would make a perfect Gambit...

weaveworld · 2nd June 2006, 09:37 PM

Gambit is cool, Mark you are correct, in the comics,Gambit and Wolverine were always at each other throats. So it is a pity that he wasn't in the movie I think.

Lets face it, Cyclops is boring....

Well Cool....

YOSSARIAN · 3rd June 2006, 04:36 AM

How large a role does Halle Berry play in this movie? I think she's horrible, and if she's got a lot of screen time I'm going to skip this movie. If her role is smaller than in X2, I will probably see the movie even though it's been panned thoroughly.

ScottSF · 3rd June 2006, 08:42 AM

I get the feeling that if they do any more movies they will call it something else and focus on the younger students, so this was the last stand for all the big name stars perhaps.

spoilers

-Magneto having the ability to slightly move the chess piece suggests that the cure is not permanent so characters like Rogue can get their powers back

2nd June 2006, 10:39 AM	#31 (permalink)
Marky Lazer Plastic Paddy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,603	Re: X-Men 3 SPOILER I haven't seen this part, so someone else should correct me if I'm wrong... But after the credits, you hear prof X's voice... I'm not sure how and what... we might want to have some Weaveness here to explain it better than I can.

2nd June 2006, 02:57 PM	#34 (permalink)
Brown Rat wandering & wondering Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 944	Re: X-Men 3 I used to work in a comic store and collect comics, but that was twenty yeas ago, and although I was an enormous Avengers fan, I didn't read much X-Men. So . . . I'm going to ask a Big Question for one of you devoted X-Men readers to answer. How does the third movie (and the other movies, too) fit in or not fit in with the comics themselves? How much of the plot comes from the comics? I'm interested in hearing specific details, if you've got them.

2nd June 2006, 03:02 PM	#35 (permalink)
Marky Lazer Plastic Paddy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,603	Re: X-Men 3 I don't have the real details because I never read the comic, but I've heard people say they messed a lot with the story of the comics, including good guy joining the 'bad' side and things like that.

2nd June 2006, 05:40 PM	#36 (permalink)
BookStop Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 1,306	Re: X-Men 3 Spoiler - Well, they're getting thier powers back, right? And X is alive and well. Does this mean more movies in the mix? The title Last Stand would suggest not.

2nd June 2006, 05:45 PM	#37 (permalink)
Marky Lazer Plastic Paddy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,603	Re: X-Men 3 The name would suggest there's not more, and, I'm not sure about the profits of the first week, but if they are disappointing, then I'd say no. But, you never know, the last scene with Magneto did leave it pretty open-ended. You have to say, as long as they make new comics, you can also make a new movie out of it. And the comics are so awfully popular I don't believe Marvel will stop making them any time soon

2nd June 2006, 06:03 PM	#39 (permalink)
Marky Lazer Plastic Paddy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,603	Re: X-Men 3 But the Wolverine movie isn't news anymore. I knew that before this one was in the cinemas...

2nd June 2006, 06:48 PM	#40 (permalink)
BookStop Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 1,306	Re: X-Men 3 Didn't this movie break box office records for an opening weekend? If its momentum continues, and let's face it, everyone who has seen the first 2 will be seeing this one, it could become so profitable that the production co. will try for a fourth. At least, I would.

2nd June 2006, 08:11 PM	#41 (permalink)
Mouse Not a mouse Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 303	Re: X-Men 3 I would like to see a fourth. I thought it was good but could've done with being a bit longer, just to get more character story in! Plus I would've liked to have seen Gambit show up! Apparently Josh Holloway (Lost) was meant to play him but he thought that Gambit was too simialr to his character Sawyer, in Lost so he decided against it!

2nd June 2006, 08:31 PM	#42 (permalink)
Marky Lazer Plastic Paddy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,603	Re: X-Men 3 Yeah, on Weave's forum we discussed this as well. Gambit pretty much is the coolest X-man, and I couldn't believe he wasn't in. Although, he was a bit in... At least, if I believe the cartoon which I used to watch. Gambit was always a bit argueing with Wolverine wasn't he? And Cyclopse took that role, I guess. Anyway, I agree that it was too short. They crammed in so much characters that it was too short to keep 'track' of them all, and define them all and so on. I argued also that Clive Owen would make a perfect Gambit...

2nd June 2006, 09:37 PM	#43 (permalink)
weaveworld Rockin! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Dunbartonshire Posts: 573	Re: X-Men 3 Gambit is cool, Mark you are correct, in the comics,Gambit and Wolverine were always at each other throats. So it is a pity that he wasn't in the movie I think. Lets face it, Cyclops is boring.... Well Cool....

3rd June 2006, 04:36 AM	#44 (permalink)
YOSSARIAN Enjoy the Era Vulgaris Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 282	Re: X-Men 3 How large a role does Halle Berry play in this movie? I think she's horrible, and if she's got a lot of screen time I'm going to skip this movie. If her role is smaller than in X2, I will probably see the movie even though it's been panned thoroughly.

3rd June 2006, 08:42 AM	#45 (permalink)
ScottSF ScottSF Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 409	Re: X-Men 3 I get the feeling that if they do any more movies they will call it something else and focus on the younger students, so this was the last stand for all the big name stars perhaps. spoilers -Magneto having the ability to slightly move the chess piece suggests that the cure is not permanent so characters like Rogue can get their powers back

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