Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) - Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums

SteveR · 17th May 2006, 12:06 AM

Hi all,

Just watched the above, wow - now that's what I call a cliff-hangar! Anybody else seen it yet?

BSG has been a huge surprise to me - very gritty, adult and a very strong story that not only holds the series together but is consistently surprising me with plot turns and so on. It is very well written.

It's very very good. Roll on season 3

Cheers
Steve

Brown Rat · 17th May 2006, 02:00 AM

Yes, I saw and enjoyed it.

The podcasts' comments on the two episodes (in fact, on the entire season) are fascinating.

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/down...ast/index.html

*spoiler*

I am intrigued by the story possibilities indicated by the finale: no longer Running Away in Space, they will now be (I assume) Resisting in Place.

ScottSF · 17th May 2006, 02:26 AM

did you notice how Fat Apollo got? Really shows how much the war defined him.

Brown Rat · 17th May 2006, 02:43 AM

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did you notice how Fat Apollo got? Really shows how much the war defined him.

When I first saw Apollo's new chunkiness, I thought maybe I was imagining it. But you're right. Without the war, flab city. And, maybe, without Kara to mix it up with?

ScottSF · 17th May 2006, 07:35 AM

it's details like that that really make the show work for me. I don't really have a clue what the Cylons are up to. They were trying to destroy all the humans but they still seem to need them. It's a complex relationship. I'm really eager to see how they follow through with it.

SteveR · 17th May 2006, 09:49 AM

Ah, I just assumed he was pregnant - rebuilding the population and all that

*spiolers*
*spiolers*
*spiolers*
*spiolers*

It was good to see the Cylons demonstrate even more log term planning in there too in their method of finding the colony. I thought Baltar played his part really well - certainly looking the broken man that he should be at the end when he realises what he had done (again!).

I am a grahics fan and am a big fan of the CGI in BSG - I really loved the explosion scene - very cool. We are very lucky these days getting motion picture special effects in TV shows. Hell even the new Dr. Who has some really wonderful CGI work.

Anyway I digress.

As to the Cylons relationship - it is hard to know. It is almost like they are children wanting to spread their wings but can't quite bring themselves to go for good. I am not sure why they said the Cylons would stop chasing them - I'm not clear on this - seems like Cylon politics. The influential enlightened' number 8 and Sharon Cylon on Caprica putting their oar in it seems. But again, we don't know why they turned up at New Caprica - maybe the 2 rebel cylons are no longer important - but the time scale suggests this is not the case (1 year on and being 1 light year away when the bomb went off).

Hey I dunno!

Steve

Paradox 99 · 17th May 2006, 12:23 PM

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As to the Cylons relationship - it is hard to know. It is almost like they are children wanting to spread their wings but can't quite bring themselves to go for good. I am not sure why they said the Cylons would stop chasing them - I'm not clear on this - seems like Cylon politics. The influential enlightened' number 8 and Sharon Cylon on Caprica putting their oar in it seems. But again, we don't know why they turned up at New Caprica - maybe the 2 rebel cylons are no longer important - but the time scale suggests this is not the case (1 year on and being 1 light year away when the bomb went off).

I think it has to do with the baby - a merging of the two species. I'm very curious to see how this turns out.

Though, I'm curious as to why Admiral Adama believed that the Cylons weren't going to come back - a year isn't exactly a long time.

SteveR · 17th May 2006, 12:41 PM

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Though, I'm curious as to why Admiral Adama believed that the Cylons weren't going to come back - a year isn't exactly a long time.

Yes indeed - mighty suspiscous! Is he or isn't he? I reckon he is. Nothing would surprise with this show - it is quite full of surprises.

Brown Rat · 17th May 2006, 02:53 PM

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I think it has to do with the baby - a merging of the two species. I'm very curious to see how this turns out.

Yes, exactly. That fits with why the Cylons want to "protect" the humans by making them surrender to Cylon rule. Plus, didn't a Cylon enter Kara's tent during the Cylon landing and ask her ailing husband where Kara is? (I'm hazy on who the tent-entering guy is.)

Anyway, Kara is important for military reasons, I suppose--but she's also one of the women who were part of the breeding program back on Cylon-occupied Caprica, so if that guy is a Cylon, maybe he's looking for her because of that. And even if he isn't a Cylon and isn't looking for her for that reason, I still assume that the Cylon's have breeding in mind.

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Though, I'm curious as to why Admiral Adama believed that the Cylons weren't going to come back - a year isn't exactly a long time.

I missed that. Did Admiral Adama say that? And if so, does he mean it? Somehow I got the impression he's gone for another reason.

alicebandassassin · 18th May 2006, 10:56 AM

i have diped in and out but i watched the original and loved it so wathched all the first serise but found i missed what was there before and could not get round all the caractors this time most be getting old!!

SteveR · 18th May 2006, 01:12 PM

Alicebandasssasin, did you get to see David Hatch (it is David isn't it) in the new BSG - he played Adama's son in the old version I think. In the new one, he plays a politician. Not sure when he comes into the story - I think it probably was in series 1.

Later

SteveR · 18th May 2006, 01:12 PM

Alicebandasssasin, did you get to see David Hatch (it is David isn't it) in the new BSG - he played Adama's son in the old version I think. In the new one, he plays a politician. Not sure when he comes into the story - I think it probably was in series 1.

Later

Brown Rat · 18th May 2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveR

David Hatch (it is David isn't it) in the new BSG - he played Adama's son in the old version I think. In the new one, he plays a politician. Not sure when he comes into the story - I think it probably was in series 1.

You're right, it's David Hatch and he first appears in season 1. He's elected in "Colonial Day."

I know I've already mentioned the podcasts, but I'm gonna mention them again, because the last three 'casts have been recordings of the writers' meeting discussing the episode "Scar." It's fascinating to listen to the writers and the show runner discuss plot and characterization and brainstorm ideas!

SteveR · 18th May 2006, 03:39 PM

Sorry Brown Rat, I meant to say that I did listen to the podcast for the series finale. Very interesting to get an insight into all the decision that make the show what it is.

Very interesting. Whilst I know Tricia Helfer was/is a model (how could she not be!) I didn't realise that this is her first acting role. I thought she was one of the best actors in the show. Mind you, the strength of the acting is very much a core strenght to BSG.

Apologies btw, for the above double post - absolutely no idea how that happened.

Steve

Brown Rat · 18th May 2006, 04:08 PM

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Whilst I know Tricia Helfer was/is a model (how could she not be!) I didn't realise that this is her first acting role. I thought she was one of the best actors in the show.

I agree! It's amazing to watch her shade her delivery depending on which Six she's portraying in a given scene.

17th May 2006, 12:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
SteveR frell! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 96	Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) Hi all, Just watched the above, wow - now that's what I call a cliff-hangar! Anybody else seen it yet? BSG has been a huge surprise to me - very gritty, adult and a very strong story that not only holds the series together but is consistently surprising me with plot turns and so on. It is very well written. It's very very good. Roll on season 3 Cheers Steve

17th May 2006, 02:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Brown Rat wandering & wondering Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 946	Re: Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) Yes, I saw and enjoyed it. The podcasts' comments on the two episodes (in fact, on the entire season) are fascinating. http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/down...ast/index.html spoiler I am intrigued by the story possibilities indicated by the finale: no longer Running Away in Space, they will now be (I assume) Resisting in Place.

17th May 2006, 02:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
ScottSF ScottSF Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 412	Re: Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) did you notice how Fat Apollo got? Really shows how much the war defined him.

17th May 2006, 07:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
ScottSF ScottSF Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: California Posts: 412	Re: Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) it's details like that that really make the show work for me. I don't really have a clue what the Cylons are up to. They were trying to destroy all the humans but they still seem to need them. It's a complex relationship. I'm really eager to see how they follow through with it.

17th May 2006, 09:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
SteveR frell! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 96	Re: Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) Ah, I just assumed he was pregnant - rebuilding the population and all that spiolers spiolers spiolers spiolers It was good to see the Cylons demonstrate even more log term planning in there too in their method of finding the colony. I thought Baltar played his part really well - certainly looking the broken man that he should be at the end when he realises what he had done (again!). I am a grahics fan and am a big fan of the CGI in BSG - I really loved the explosion scene - very cool. We are very lucky these days getting motion picture special effects in TV shows. Hell even the new Dr. Who has some really wonderful CGI work. Anyway I digress. As to the Cylons relationship - it is hard to know. It is almost like they are children wanting to spread their wings but can't quite bring themselves to go for good. I am not sure why they said the Cylons would stop chasing them - I'm not clear on this - seems like Cylon politics. The influential enlightened' number 8 and Sharon Cylon on Caprica putting their oar in it seems. But again, we don't know why they turned up at New Caprica - maybe the 2 rebel cylons are no longer important - but the time scale suggests this is not the case (1 year on and being 1 light year away when the bomb went off). Hey I dunno! Steve

18th May 2006, 10:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
alicebandassassin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK: ENGLAND: Posts: 118	Re: Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) i have diped in and out but i watched the original and loved it so wathched all the first serise but found i missed what was there before and could not get round all the caractors this time most be getting old!!

18th May 2006, 01:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
SteveR frell! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 96	Re: Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) Alicebandasssasin, did you get to see David Hatch (it is David isn't it) in the new BSG - he played Adama's son in the old version I think. In the new one, he plays a politician. Not sure when he comes into the story - I think it probably was in series 1. Later

18th May 2006, 01:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
SteveR frell! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 96	Re: Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) Alicebandasssasin, did you get to see David Hatch (it is David isn't it) in the new BSG - he played Adama's son in the old version I think. In the new one, he plays a politician. Not sure when he comes into the story - I think it probably was in series 1. Later

18th May 2006, 03:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
SteveR frell! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Norfolk Posts: 96	Re: Battlestar - Season 2 Finale (poss. spoilers in thread) Sorry Brown Rat, I meant to say that I did listen to the podcast for the series finale. Very interesting to get an insight into all the decision that make the show what it is. Very interesting. Whilst I know Tricia Helfer was/is a model (how could she not be!) I didn't realise that this is her first acting role. I thought she was one of the best actors in the show. Mind you, the strength of the acting is very much a core strenght to BSG. Apologies btw, for the above double post - absolutely no idea how that happened. Steve