E3 news

[bendoran]

oblivion clinched it for me in terms of buying a 360. it just looked so tempting There have been some awesome games announced though, i think i am most looking forward to mass effect for the 360 as its from bioware who made jade empire and kotor, both of which i really enjoyed. Plus early impressions are resoundingly positive. Another big game for the 360 will be gears of war, it too has got really good feedback.

for the wii, i look forqward to zelda, but if there isnt enough improvement and the controller isnt as intuitive as nintendo says i may just get zelda ffor my game cube.

i have a pc aswell, and it cost me a lot, but i use it for writing and counterstrike, and tv shows. but the xbox( i know i have too many consoles) was a great purchase. the hard drive was massive and useful

ps3 will sell like mad no matter what happens, but peter moore said it best when he said for the price of a ps3 you could buy both the 360 and the wii!!!

[Winters_Sorrow]

Originally Posted by Green

Both available on the PC, too Dunno about those other games.

But fair enough, if you like it, you like it. I think all consoles are a ripoff these days, not just XBox, especially when you figure in the cost of the games and the extra controllers etc etc.

true, but Dark Corners just came out very recently, but was available on Xbox for years although Fable appeared on both together.

And as I said, I got mine 2nd hand - with two controllers, so I wasn't bothered.

I agree it's pretty much half the cost of a PC when you start charging £400 for them!

[Green]

PC's are much better value for money than consoles... as long as you don't do something daft like buy from Dell or PC World. You can't upgrade a PS3 if the motherboard gets a bit dated, alas.

[Brys]

Originally Posted by Winters_Sorrow

There were a few good games for the Xbox, so I have to disagree with you there, Green.

Fable was fairly decent and Crimson Skies was a decent flight game. As they're the only games I have for the Xbox and as I got the Xbox for £75 second hand rather than straight away, I agree with Brys about early adopting. Even Oblivion hasn't tempted me to get the Xbox360 although I admit it came close

A positive comment about Fable? That must be the first I've ever heard! (I assume you didn't hear anything about Fable before release). Fable was probably the most disappointing game ever created IMO - not the worst game, but the most disappointing by far. It lasted me about 10 hours, and had no replayability value. I'd been led to believe that it would be similar in scale to Morrowind, but with better graphics, aging, a dynamic world and a much better levelling system. It turns out they scrapped all of the main features because they took up too much processor time and they wanted to improve the combat.

I personally thought Halo was an excellent game - and it's the only example I could think of where a console FPS was better than the PC version. Halo 2 wasn't quite as good, but still worthwhile. Everything else worthwhile was on PC though.

The Xbox 360's backwards compatability list is a joke - it doesn't include Morrowind (which sold 4.5 million in total, about 60% of those on Xbox) - Halo only sold 6.5 million roughly. Fable sold less, at 2 million, but is on the backwards compatability list, and some really marginal ones are there too. If one thing's putting me off getting an Xbox 360 (other than the lack of games for it) more than anything else, it's this ridiculous backwards compatability list, which includes Halo, Halo 2 and a load of games you've never heard of, but very few of the better known ones.

Just found out: Oblivion is going to be coming out on PS3 - and on PSP
I don't really understand the latter, but the former isn't a huge surprise.

[bendoran]

i think that rumour was squashed about ps3 and psp brys. i know it wont be on psp, but ps3 could handle it.

fable was just so disappointing.

xbox was a good console though, pro evo and halo and fight night all good kotor and jade empire too.

[Brys]

The Xbox was, but I don't know that the Xbox 360 will be a decent console. There just aren't many decent games out for it - launch games are notoriously mediocre, but the Xbox 360's launch games were pretty low quality even considering that. Oblivion's a decent game on Xbox 360, but I've got the PC version (which is better IMO), and Halo 3 alone, given the lacklustre performance at E3, isn't going to make me get a 360, especially when you have to consider the games cost £50 each.

[Winters_Sorrow]

I do agree with the price of the games. There is no way I could condone spending that sum for a console game.
To be honest, I resent paying more than £30 for a game, new or otherwise.

I hope that this is merely expensive due to the fact ir's a new console etc etc and then the titles prices will come down to more reasonable levels. I see a lot of articles about publishers bemoaning game piracy or the burgeoning second hand market on poor sales, but sooner or later they have to face up to the fact that their product's prices are beyond what consumers are willing to pay.

Sadly, some do buy at that price but more fool them, I say.

[Green]

Just download them for free.

Ahem. I have recently purchased FEAR since it is the only game in about the past four years (bar PES5) that I have deemed worth buying.

£50 per game? Are they having a laugh? I wouldn't pay anything for most of the snot that comes out these days.

[Animaiden]

Originally Posted by Winters_Sorrow

I do agree with the price of the games. There is no way I could condone spending that sum for a console game.
To be honest, I resent paying more than £30 for a game, new or otherwise.

Me too. I'm still annoyed that I paid $130 for a N64 (plus $50 for Zelda). I learned my lesson, wait a few months and the price will go down
I did hear somewhere that the price for crafting a game on one of the new and spiffy consoles is about $70 million(or some other really high number), which will put the third party people out of business, or discourage them from making games.

There will be Fable 2, but they publishers aren't saying it is the greatest anything. They learned from the first time 'round.