| Re: lovecraft and the shoggoth Greetings to all and sorries for my delay.from the feedback i know i have to do with people that appreciate lovecraft and his work.ok getting to the point:i am closer to the worthington"s reference of evolutionary symbolism but i think in a whole different approach than everybody here described and i explain myself with the holy ghost thing later.
The shoggoth in my opinion is not symbolising the evolutionary degeneration that j.d hinted but the non-linearity of the species evolution and that is the most terryfying symbolism of all that i can think of....the randomness of gene combination is something that we are all aware of right??something scientifically proven many decades ago maybe aeons ...from mendel i think 18th century.....its the way we are all born ,me ,worthington ,and all else in nature....46 chromosomes in humans 44 autosomic and two that determine race [x.y}.Before i continue THIS terrible revelation or symbolism -you can call it as you wish...but believe me it is....----i wanna say that this is not about what will happen as j.d proposed but its something that in my opinion has TRULY HAPPENED from the beginning -if there was such and we know that lovecraft didnt believe that there was ......--of time.its not about life or humanity degenarating in an evolutionary sense through time as j.d wrote but rather that something that allready has happened long time ago but not scientifically proven...yet....so:
Shoggoth symbolizes the genetical material pool through which all species rose to existense......i think i saw the word "pool" in the thread and was impressed...DARWIN SAID that through mutations and environment interaction species differentiated to their present form or vanished to the inability to adjust and survive...in examble man came from the monkey .....a linear explanation totally wrong to me.....the shoggoth is totally opposed to the darwin theory.-although the environment adjustion pretty much remains truth and is happening even today...THAT Means that all forms and variety of life have walked and existed in our earth before reaching todays reality.long before dinosaurs ever rose to existence and since all genes randomly combine themselves there were forms of life very strange to describe ..not necessarily intelligent....why not a cthulhu or a fish with lungs??every gene combination that you can think of with skeleton or without with eyes or without or other sensory organs not known today.beings that human mind cannot grasp and rose from the evershaping genetical pool ,the so called by lovecraft "THING THAT SHOULD NOT BE" ,THE SHOGGOTH.......beings that all traces dissapeared through rapid climatologic changes-LIKE DINOSAURS DID.....!remember?---through massive volcanic activity or great cataclysms not known today to man.....because he simply wasnt there......!!!
We reached todays reality with very diminished lifeforms compared to before ,species so differentiated so away from the shoggoth........and why should man come from the monkey ...alone??why not believe -and i do believe-that there were not humans but humanoids like those depicted in literature and even more that were never imagined or described....humanoids with 3 eyes or 6 or 7 fingers ...the possibilities are endless..........humanoids that lived only five or ten years cause of their deformations.humanoids which
could live and breath inside the sea with scales and could breath without lungs......why is this so impossible when medical contitions like hexadactyly are happening today{babies born with 6 fingers have been described and they are a scientific reality.....}....why not this happened in a greater scale
millions of years ago when the evolutional progression was at a crazed peak,in a bloom.....
would anyone of you here believe that there were actually dinosaurs or flying pterodactyls........if scientific research didnt prove it to you??i believe noone would believe that but they did exist.....nobody would believe even if they saw them in front of their two eyes....because lovecraft was so right: human understanding and comprehension is so limited and weak to grasp the realities of the universe.....
About the holy ghost comparison which you so anxiously wait an explanation:
the holy ghost is a christian symbolism for the breath of life ....in the christian dogmatic thought all lifeforms receive the blessing from god through
the breath of life that the holy ghost is serving onto them.the holy ghost is the spirit that god sends upon finished creation to bless and give the gift of life and reason to the subject.Well i say this is far from truth and lovecraft actually believed that too.......because the gift of life is not granted by a supernatural spirit but from the reality that SHOGGOTH is :the random production and evolution and combination of all genetical material that has happened ...and is not happening right now because of the extreme differentiation of all life.THATS THE UNCOMPROMISING TRUTH THAT I TOLD YOU ABOUT ,the terrible secret that is hidden behind the adaptation of shoggoth........The most terrible truth that was revealed to me with reading lovecraft...........All we believe is in most cases an illusion ,a lie that we feed ourselves like in the medieval times it was common sense that earth is not round and is not moving but its the centre of the universe.........something that today we lough about.lovecraft didnt only show us other dimensions in sensation but opened up new ones that are haunted by truth.........very happy to lay these thoughts with other people that understand and often a lot more through their feedback and happy to be on this forum.interested on more feedback on this ,and thank you all for the patience. |