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Old 13th December 2007, 09:30 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

Rereading AFFC reveals that Pycelle is the most informed, patient, and wise member of Tommen's Small Council... and that's just scary.
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Old 14th December 2007, 01:58 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

Never trust a man with a beard...especially a long white one.
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Old 14th December 2007, 07:53 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

Or a chopped of one, that doesn't seem to be growing back as it should.
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Old 15th December 2007, 03:54 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

What if there was no moon tea at all, what if Pycelle made it up (some kinda clever scheme - his or his new patron's)..?
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Old 15th December 2007, 05:08 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

Did you just use Pycelle and clever in the same sentence? Well, since Littlefinger, Tyrion, and Varys all left KL, I guess Pycelle is the cleverest one left.

Who do you think Pycelle's new patron is? Kevan. The High Septon. Mace. Olenna. Littlefinger. Who?
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Old 17th December 2007, 03:32 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

Littlfinger is my guess.
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Old 17th December 2007, 10:50 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

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Here's mine...

The One True Heir to the Twins....

... was known by the only word he ever said...

Hands down, best theory ever.
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Old 17th December 2007, 11:00 PM   #68 (permalink)
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BWWWAAHHAHHAHHAHHA! I AM THE SMART. S.M.R.T

Tysha, a woman from? (I swear it was Russia yesterday and now its Isreal) or GRRM? I think Tysha you are indeed covering your tracks like Jason Bourne.

(uuhhh, do we even know if GRRM has ever been to the forums or cares about us? Or does he just go that other stupidhead forum that thinks they know eveything...)

Boaz, you rock!
Yes, I think GRRM reads through the forum to get some new material so he can complete his series.

That's why it's taking so long, in truth. He is reevaluating all of his pre-planned plots and seeing if likes any of yours better.
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Old 17th December 2007, 11:09 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Damn! I have been greatly vexed by the whole whore-wearing-Twin's necklace thing. But Tysha gave reason. I always thought it Tywins gentler side - him indulging her (remember how she always wanted to wear jewelry?) a bit after she took a stand against his son. What greater service can a whore do than to testify against your son? Oh, I guess plotting against him all along!
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Old 17th December 2007, 11:14 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Okay, I am done reading about Lannisters. Got my fill for the day. it makes my own family seem, oh, so healthy.
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Old 17th December 2007, 11:35 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

About Margery going to Pycelle requesting moontea... Didn't Cersei offer to "help him remember," threatening to send him down to the dungeos if he failed to "remember" juicy info?
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Old 18th December 2007, 07:46 AM   #72 (permalink)
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About Margery going to Pycelle requesting moontea... Didn't Cersei offer to "help him remember," threatening to send him down to the dungeos if he failed to "remember" juicy info? .
I think Pycelle provoked Cersei (quite an easy task) and kinda made her make him say this:
- "why do you spend so much time with Margery?"
- "well, I have a reason but I won't tell you. its a secret."


If he wanted to keep a secret he would say some rational lie, to convince Cersei it's nothing, but NOOO, he said "it's a secret" instead!
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Old 20th January 2008, 10:09 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

Ravens. What about them? So much attention to this bird...
"Their intelligence might be on par with canids such as wolves" (wiki)
Mormont had a raven, raven that always said interesting things...and the same raven that helped Sam.
Well, Mormont's raven have to be more than just a pet bird..
Ok the conspiracy theory goes like this:
Ravens are actually Children's (those "good" others with black cold hands whoever they are) creatures, spies, eyes in the Westeros, that how those Children keep an eye on what is going on in Seven Kingdoms. And the Night Watch of course (sitting on the shoulder of the Lord Commander..)

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Old 20th January 2008, 06:41 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Tysha, very intriguing. But my feeling is that the ravens are just ravens and not CotF. I think the possibility that the CotF have the warging ability and use it to "see" and "act" through the raven as much more likely.

I've always wondered how the ravens knew where to go. In our world, homing pigeons are born in one area and then taken away to be used solely for the purpose of bringing a message back to that specific place of their birth. In ASOIAF, I get the feeling that the ravens just go where they are told to go. Of the rookeries at Dragonstone and Castle Black, do you think that they really kept specific ravens to travel to scores of different castles? Stannis sent his message to dozens, if not hundreds of castles. Seems kinda expesive and complicated... I think we'd have heard of raven resending services if this was true. No, I think the ravens have some special ability to allow them to go where they are sent.
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Old 20th January 2008, 08:30 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Re: Everyone needs a conspiracy theory....

Yes, Tysha, you're right about Pycelle provoking Cersei. What a fun job that is!

I don't believe that the ravens of the Seven Kingdoms are being warged by the Children or anyone else. I just think they're more intelligent than our ravens and with better training. Maybe when they are young, they accompany an older raven on a mission somewhere, so they can learn the commands and where to go.

My conspiracy theory was one of hope but not belief: I would have liked to believe that the Old Bear warged into his raven before he died, but I don't believe it's so. Too bad. And I kow this because the raven wouldn't have eaten the Old Bear's eyes had the Mormount been "in" him.
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