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Old 25th January 2008, 07:03 PM   #46 (permalink)
Steve Jordan
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Re: Women representation in sci-fi films... Any opinions please!

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And GitS- She runs around Tokyo in her underwear! I don't know how she can be taken at all seriously! Tokyo's not THAT warm!
There are a number of scenes in which the major is not "running around in her underwear"... it seems to be in the nature of the camoflage gear she (and presumably, the rest of her squad) uses. In the original manga, men in her squad also use the form-fitting gear, while civilians tend to use the "cloak" style, presumably not as sophisticated or flexible in combat situations. (No, this was not hinted at in the movie.)

What I think is more significant is that she's not wearing this form-fitting clothing and crying, "Eek! Don't look at me, I'm naked!" nor "That's right, boys, get a good look at my naughty bits!" She's just doing her job, and her attire concerns her not a bit.

In fact, Batou shows more of a reaction to her attire than she does... odd in itself, considering he knows very well that she's a robot and apparently isn't concerned with her own appearance, but it seems he sees the Major as a woman, not just a robot, so he seems to stand up for her modesty for her. How's that for gender reversal? (Maybe the subject of another thread?)

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The problem becomes the definition of feminism itself. In order for a woman to avoid accusations of being there solely for her body, she has to not show it. But then she's accused of being a man in woman's clothing. There's no winning for losing anymore.
As I said, if she treats it as a non-issue, it becomes a non-issue.

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There's the additional problem of stereotyping, and that's regardless of gender. Male characters are also heavily stereotyped, into captains, military, politicians, heavies, nerds, cowboys, etc... I can't think of any that are both nerds and heavies, for example.
Actually, most of James Bond's early uber-villians fit the description of "heavy nerds"...
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