The UK's largest Science Fiction & Fantasy Forums



Go Back   Science Fiction Fantasy Chronicles: forums > Books and Writing > Aspiring Writers

Aspiring Writers For aspiring writers of science fiction and fantasy - discuss issues of writing, and find useful writer resources and have a sample of your work critiqued here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 21st March 2006, 11:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
Demosthenes
 
orionsixwings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 280
Editors

I don't know if this was discussed before, probably has, so mods if you don't mind, and be so kind, to please just merge for I cannot find a similar thread.

I am looking for info on Editors for hire. People who I can email my work to for copyreading/editing/corrections/critiquing my work before I present it to publishers.

I have already presented a basic storyline of the story I want to publish here and so far I got good vibes and I'm going to pursue it, I know that Chris gives good advice but I feel like I would be abusing him if I post the whole story here and not pay him for the services.

Do any of you have any info about this.
orionsixwings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st March 2006, 11:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
Author
 
Jeremy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 61
Re: Editors

Avoid www.scribendi.com. www.book-editing.com seems to have many competent editors, but they charge high prices. Right now I'm thinking of working with the editors at www.authorassist.com.

Good luck!
Jeremy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2006, 12:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
Demosthenes
 
orionsixwings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 280
Re: Editors

Thank you Jeremy! I will check out those two sites you mentioned that are good. Thank you again!
orionsixwings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2006, 05:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
Admin and Tea-boy
 
I, Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,400
Blog Entries: 1
Re: Editors

This *may* be useful:
http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...-services.html

However, you may find it better to approach John Jarrold, a pretty major freelance editor in the UK (I believe he won "best Editor" at Worldcon this year), who also happens to be a member:
http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...n-jarrold.html

You will need to make sure you have a manuscript to be edited, and also determine whether you're looking for general editorial appriasal, or more in-depth line-editing - don't simply send an idea.

I would recommend that if you're really serious, to see about a chapter of editing from someone like John, who would likely be able to warn you if you've steered into any general pitfalls.
I, Brian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2006, 06:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
Demosthenes
 
orionsixwings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 280
Re: Editors

Quote:
Originally Posted by I, Brian
This *may* be useful:
http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...-services.html

However, you may find it better to approach John Jarrold, a pretty major freelance editor in the UK (I believe he won "best Editor" at Worldcon this year), who also happens to be a member:
http://www.chronicles-network.com/fo...n-jarrold.html

You will need to make sure you have a manuscript to be edited, and also determine whether you're looking for general editorial appriasal, or more in-depth line-editing - don't simply send an idea.

I would recommend that if you're really serious, to see about a chapter of editing from someone like John, who would likely be able to warn you if you've steered into any general pitfalls.
FABULOUS! How much does he charge?
orionsixwings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2006, 09:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
Admin and Tea-boy
 
I, Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,400
Blog Entries: 1
Re: Editors

Dunno - but I have it in mind to pay him to line edit my first three chapters when they're finally ready - and whatever he's charging, will almost certainly be worth it as an investment in my own writing career.
I, Brian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22nd March 2006, 10:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
Ink-stained Wretch
 
Teresa Edgerton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,654
Blog Entries: 2
Re: Editors

Do make sure, when dealing with free-lance editors, that it is someone with genuine experience like John Jerrold, because there are a lot of people who will charge you to do what you could do as well or better yourself.

And I like what Brian says about having the first three chapters done, rather than the whole book, and an editor who will discuss your mistakes, not just correct them. When I made my first sale, that is almost exactly what the acquiring editor did: she line-edited a few chapters (with a few explanations of what she was doing and why, where it wasn't self-evident) and then said, "this is how it's done, and now that you know how it is done, go through the rest of the manuscript and do it yourself."

Because eventually you do have to learn how to do these things on your own. If you sell your book and the editor asks for revisions, you can hardly bring a third-party editor in at that point to do them for you.
Teresa Edgerton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24th March 2006, 02:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 319
Re: Editors

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Wow ... those rates.

Why am I not freelance editing? I ask myself, why?

(Yes, yes, I know why, but the asking is fun nonetheless, no?)
Shoegaze99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th April 2006, 09:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
John Jarrold's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,124
Re: Editors

Hi there!

Just to say that anyone approaching an editor to work with them on their novel should investigate them fully, whether it's me or anyone else. Google their name, check out websites, talk to authors with whom they have worked where possible. I do entirely understand that there are scam merchants out there, and it's important that writers avoid them. You're spending money - spend it wisely, and DON'T spend it unless you are 100% happy to do so.

John Jarrold
John Jarrold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th April 2006, 02:42 PM   #10 (permalink)
Admin and Tea-boy
 
I, Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 5,400
Blog Entries: 1
Re: Editors

Thanks for the comments, John - and as he corrected with me at Eastercon, he didn't win the Worldcon best editor, but he was very well recommended by a number of UK writers I spoke with.
I, Brian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th April 2006, 02:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
John Jarrold's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,124
Re: Editors

If anyone has a query about how commercial publishing works, they are welcome to ask and I'll answer as straightforwardly as possible!
John Jarrold is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.